I appreciate very well Helena's gratitude to psychopharmacology. I've been prescribing these drugs since they made their first real appearance in the 1950s. And I've seen the despair of many people lifted by them. I've also seen them offered prodigally & fruitlessly to many more people who were eventually `rescued' by other means: sometimes depth psychotherapy, sometimes ECT, sometimes a chance alteration in life's circumstances - often the simple passage of time. Most usually, by a combination of several approaches. In her original posting, Camille quite clearly stated she `was not against use of psychotropic drugs - just very very sceptical of them....' I think most psychiatrists of experience & honesty would subscribe to this view (minus, perhaps, one or two `verys'.) No one should expect Helena to provide us with clinical details of her own experience. The trouble is: one can rather easily produce a respectful silence by displaying one's wounds - which is a slightly unfair game to play so long as there remains a perfectly valid discussion to be held on the efficacy of these drugs. Prozac *has* become an international joke - thanks to the grotesque overselling of it & its related medications by a hustling pharmacological industry, abetted by the natural gullibility & laziness of the average doctor. Holden was expressing powerfully some of the most basic emotions shared by the young people of his time & place. If Camille was making her stand against the attitude that we can short circuit these experiences & struggles with a happiness pill, then she certainly has my vote. Scottie B.