> argument, because now I feel like the bogeywoman of the list. HALT in LIST TRAFFIC! Camille, no way are you or anyone else a bogeyman, -woman, or -child! In fact, it takes a lot to even approach such status here, I think. I think you started a really good conversation that got odd, and (unfortunately) I can't at the moment reply to the rest of your message, but you did a good thing, starting the thread. Cheers and Vegemite! --tim