RE: DSM-IV

John Touzios (JTouzios@mwumail.midwestern.edu)
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:47:37 -0600

Thank you very much.  Your post, however, paradoxically makes me want to learn 
DSM-IV-talk, so that I might be able to one day give a "firm, cogently 
explained refusal."  It also reinforces a fear I learned in class today to 
fear DSM-IV and the psychologists who use it.

John Touzios
>===== Original Message From Scottie Bowman <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu> =====
>    I can really only add my own dismissive feelings about
>    the DSM to those already expressed by both John & Sean.
>
>    (I wouldn't even allow the latter's small, reasonable plea
>    in mitigation.  I think it's a wholly artificial strait jacket
>    imposed by pseudo-scientists on a phenomenon -
>    the human personality - that is far too multilayered,
>    paradoxical & shifting to be accessible to that kind of thinking.)
>
>    A word of advice to John when he comes to augment
>    his medical earnings.  I'm employed rather frequently by
>    various insurance companies who, in the beginning, tried
>    to get me to use the DSM-IV in my reports -
>    'for the sake of uniformity'.  I found that one firm,
>    cogently explained refusal to do so - coupled with
>    a hefty increase in the fee demanded - quickly brought
>    them to heel.  Instead of a set of empty, formulaic diagnoses,
>    they now enjoy a lengthy, witty & highly subjective
>    disquisition on their client.  They greatly prefer this
>    & have begged me on no account to even consider
>    withdrawing my services.
>
>    Scottie B.

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