War, Lolita, and Narcissism
blah b b blah (jrovira@juno.com)
Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:24:30 -0400 (EDT)
I didn't hear the speech you're describing, John, but your description
sounds like it has the ring of truth. Look, Clinton's just been
humiliated a bit over Lewinski and is posturing as a Great Leader to make
up for it. The Serbs will eventually back off and we'll quit bombing, I
think this will work out. It's not worth it for either side to continue
this conflict for long.
GAWD I hope I'm right :)
Now, what the heck this has to do with you signing off the list, well,
that's beyond me, but if you do, I'll miss you too :)
To the person who asked about the DSM - IV...
that's something along the lines of the Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual, version 4, put out by Psychologists to list and classify various
forms of psychological maladies, with descriptions.
to Camille about Lolita:
Well, if I had seen kubrick's version first, I may have hated the newer
version too -- I can't say either way. This is probably something like
the reason I liked Gibson's Hamlet and hated Branagh's.
Irons may or may not be a narcissist, Scottie, but I loved his voice as a
representation of Humbert Humbert. It just sounded right to me. But
Humbert "not smiling," Camille, when Lo mounted him? PLEASE :) What do
you think he was in all that mess for, hmmm? YES he was tortured by
guilt, but you bet he pleasured himself as well. It's a bit naieve to
think he would be longfaced through the whole thing, and that would make
his character a bit one dimensional and shallow as well.
Heck, I'm just Thinking about Lo mounting Me and smiling about it ... :)
(Jim didn't write this, it was an interpolation by his evil twin brother,
Loki)
As far as your goldfish bowl analogy, Camille --
if you don't see that you're just seeing out of one goldfish bowl into
another you're just condemning one form of ethnocentrism from within the
context of another...not a terribly admirable position to be in. We all
look "out" from our own perspectives and "in" to others, suffering the
limitations and advantages of our own respective points of view...
Jim
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:04:39 -0500 John Touzios
<JTouzios@mwumail.midwestern.edu> writes:
>Denis,
> I am especially nervous after a speech by President Clinton last
>week. When
>the president of the most powerful country in a nuclear age speaks
>publicly
>about irradiating the causes of war from the world...well, red flags
>go off on
>this mind. I can't really explain why. It has something to do with
>the
>newness of a few ideas, and the way they were pushed across the tv
>screen.
>There was something terribly militaristic about Clinton's voice. His
>voice
>was something of a drum working toward consolidating all our hearts
>behind an
>esthetically beautiful war effort. Anyway, my 2 cents.
> John Touzios
>
>"The Tao does nothing."
>-Lao Tzu
>
>
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