"Self" is conceived, I feel, somewhat differently from Western/American view of self as source of itself, as arbiter, constructor of reality. I can't speak for any other person who has taken meditation on, however I wonder, why limit yourself? This statement sounds like a belief that fights with other beliefs. I don't doubt that at moments reality is constructed by the self, but I do doubt this as a source of wisdom. I wouldn't call this tendency "Western" either. Oh, and I merely tried to say that in my experience inside a psychology classroom in Chicago, IL, USA over the last 5 months or so I haven't heard the word "madness" used. "The Tao does nothing." -Lao Tzu