Re: cigarettes and pants

Jake McHenry (seymour@ktis.net)
Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:26:52 -0500 

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You know, I can hardly even smoke a damned cigarette in any detached way =
since reading Franny many years back. (The shaping of the ash, etc.) I =
think of that invariably and feel like our man Zooey in the way that he =
cannot eat a meal without reciting, internally or aloud, =
the_________________. (What was that exactly?) I forgot and don't want =
to botch it up. I am at work without reference. (Aside from you all.)
Hope all is well for you where you sit.
-Jake.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rollo Rumford <rollo.rumford@cwcom.net>
    To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>
    Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:14 AM
    Subject: cigarettes and pants
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    this is so unworthwhile and irrelevant, i just had to bring it up!!=20
    1. Apart from some females and all children in the stories, EVERYONE =
smokes. A hell of a lot. I only noticed it because Salinger always seems =
to describe HOW the ciggy was lit, what type of lighter is used, and who =
owns it.=20
    2. So many of Salinger's characters, too, have ill- fitting 'pants' =
(we call them trousers in england) around the 'seat'. The 'pants' tend =
to be too big there. Or at least if Salinger has blessed a character =
with decent fitting clothes, he still puts in a reference to the seat of =
their 'pants' somehow.     No point here at all. But I swear if i were a =
writer all my characters would wear fitted clothes and hats. I wouldnt =
go cheap on them and make them look silly as salinger does.=20

        now that ive reduced the discussion to this, ill let you get on =
with it.=20


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You know, I can hardly even smoke a = damned=20 cigarette in any detached way since reading Franny many years back. (The = shaping=20 of the ash, etc.) I think of that invariably and feel like our man Zooey = in the=20 way that he cannot eat a meal without reciting, internally or aloud,=20 the_________________. (What was that exactly?) I forgot and don't want = to botch=20 it up. I am at work without reference. (Aside from you = all.)
Hope all is = well for you=20 where you sit.
-Jake.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Rollo Rumford <rollo.rumford@cwcom.net>To:=20 bananafish@lists.nyu.edu=20 <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>=
Date:=20 Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:14 AM
Subject: cigarettes = and=20 pants

this is so unworthwhile and = irrelevant, i=20 just had to bring it up!!=20

1. Apart from some females and all children in the stories, = EVERYONE=20 smokes. A hell of a lot. I only noticed it because Salinger always = seems to=20 describe HOW the ciggy was lit, what type of lighter is used, and = who owns=20 it.
2. So many of Salinger's characters, too, have ill- fitting = 'pants'=20 (we call them trousers in england) around the 'seat'. The 'pants' = tend to be=20 too big there. Or at least if Salinger has blessed a character with = decent=20 fitting clothes, he still puts in a reference to the seat of their = 'pants'=20 somehow.     No point here at all. But I swear = if i were=20 a writer all my characters would wear fitted clothes and hats. I = wouldnt go=20 cheap on them and make them look silly as salinger does.=20

    now that ive reduced the discussion to this, = ill let=20 you get on with it.

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