Subject: RE: random gleanings from the treasure trove
From: lray (lray@centenary.edu)
Date: Fri Aug 03 2001 - 20:43:11 GMT
As me and Pete were discussing some music via email I thought of something in
regard to this thread. I think artists can be anyone as long as someone even
if it is only one person thinks that what they do is art whether beautiful or
brutally ugly and horrible. Like a guitar player being watched by someone as
the craftsmen reaches a rhythm and is in his/her own world and reaches
perfection if not in their finished work but in the process or in both. I
thought about music and how what I may think is absolutely wonderful someone
else might think of as appalling, but because we do not all agree that ya what
that guy does with his guitar is as close to art as anything else can be said
to do does not make the act or work less artistic. This is random and I am
struggling to make sense but I wanted to expand the idea of what is
traditionally mentioned as art in my opinion. Also, for anyone who has ever
read A River Runs Through It by Norman Maclean or seen the movie directed by
Robert Redford there is a line where Paul the younger brother is said to be an
artist at fly fishing. It doesn't matter what or how many people think
something is art, but only whether or not it affects someone and in what way.
Struggling to make his two cents make sense,
Levi
>===== Original Message From Cecilia Baader <ceciliabaader@yahoo.com> =====
>--- Scottie Bowman <rbowman@indigo.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing there of the emphasis on the individually subjective
>> which seems to me to be inherent in ‘the eye of the beholder’.
>> I’m not altogether clear where that gets us - except that it tends
>> away from the implications of her last sentence (‘most meaning is
>> in the hands of the reader ...’) which I find so repulsively &
>> smugly presumptuous as to drive all breath from my body.
>
>I'm not taking the creation out of the hands of the creator. That
>would, indeed, be presumptuous. I was merely throwing out again a
>common viewpoint in what will always be an ongoing debate ... if
>unintended meaning is found by someone other than the artist, does that
>mean that the meaning should be ignored? I don't think so. The
>reader/viewer/listener brings something to the table, too. The
>experience of the thing is the combination of intended meaning and
>meaning that the audience finds.
>
>> Because we already know that like 97% of the membership of
>> this list, old Cec is a games enthusiast.
>
>Oh, pooh. One must first understand the rules in order to play outside
>of them.
>
>Regards,
>Speedy.
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