Re: CITR and the Koran

ok, so what exactly are you saying? are you saying that since God is still
in the Pledge that people accept God more than "any other religious figure"?
i don't think so...my point here still stands, that if it were the Christian
Bible being read, then there would have been at least twice as much
reaction. you're about the only one that would disagree with me on that.

-adam.

----- Original Message -----
From: "m e g h a n" <bedroomdancing@hotmail.com>
To: <adam@sebcoe.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: CITR and the Koran

> A big dispute, and look what happened.. God is still in the Pledge. You
> can't argue that God is more accepted than any other religious figure.
>
>
> >From: "adam lescalleet" <adam@sebcoe.org>
> >To: "m e g h a n" <bedroomdancing@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: CITR and the Koran
> >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:47:37 -0500
> >
> >It's ok to mention God?
> >
> >Hmm. Wasn't there a big dispute about saying "one nation, under God" in
> >schools when repeating the Pledge of Allegiance?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "m e g h a n" <bedroomdancing@hotmail.com>
> >To: <bananafish@roughdraft.org>; <adam@sebcoe.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: CITR and the Koran
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I also said that there wouldn't be controversey, at least not as much,
> >if
> > > the Bible instead of the Koran was chosen, and I think that for the
same
> > > reasons you do. It seems that it's ok to mention God, in Christian
form
> >as
> > > much as you want, but if you want to mention Allah, well then there's
a
> > > problem.
> > > >From: "Matthew S. Mahoney" <matthew.s.mahoney@vanderbilt.edu>
> > > >Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> > > >To: "adam lescalleet" <adam@sebcoe.org>, <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: CITR and the Koran
> > > >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:49:22 -0500
> > > >
> > > >that was me who said it wouldn't have been as big a deal if the Bible
> >was
> > > >the
> > > >text in question-what i was implying, however, was not that groups
like
> >the
> > > >ACLU, etc, would not get involved, because they most certainly would,
> >but
> > > >that
> > > >popular sentiment, the thoughts on the issue by the average joe,
would
> >be
> > > >much
> > > >less ferocious and pervasive, and indeed even existent. the bible,
> >being
> > > >inherently more familiar and 'accepted,' would provoke less of a
> >response
> > > >than
> > > >an unfamiliar and distinctive Koran, simply because more noteworthy
> >things
> > > >lead us to perform a double-take. (the Koran, of course, has largely
> >been
> > > >dragged into this due to our frenzy with all things 9/11-in any other
> >year,
> > > >this would have gone largely unnoticed. my read on the
> >situation-extremely
> > > >savvy newspaper personnel picking up on a story guaranteed to turn
> >heads,
> > > >and
> > > >us (society) following in tow-some with meritorious debates, most
with
> > > >ignorant rhetoric).
> > > >
> > > > >===== Original Message From "adam lescalleet" <adam@sebcoe.org>
=====
> > > > >That's exactly their explanation for the reason it was chosen. Due
> >to
> > > >the
> > > > >recent happenings "over there", they figured it would be good to
gain
> >a
> > > > >better understanding on the religion that is supposedly the flame
> >that
> >is
> > > > >the passion that drives them to do this; some of them say they do
it
> >for
> > > > >religious purposes, and, for the most part, true devout followers
of
> >the
> > > > >Koran are being cast under an ugly light. I can't really say that
I
> > > >appose
> > > > >or support this...I think that, like someone said earlier, it's all
> >quite
> > > > >silly to be made such a big deal over.
> > > > >
> > > > >And who said that if they had to read the Christian Bible it
wouldn't
> >be
> > > >a
> > > > >big deal? I think that if they did, there wouldn't have been just
a
> > > >handful
> > > > >of people suing the university over this... =)
> > > > >
> > > > >-adam.
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Scottie Bowman" <rbowman@indigo.ie>
> > > > >To: <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:02 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: CITR and the Koran
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I presume the idea is to broaden understanding in the
aftermath
> > > > >> of last September & Middle Eastern events generally. But I
> >wonder
> > > > >> really how much relevance a grasp of the Koran has to that
> > > >enterprise.
> > > > >> It's like suggesting that a mastery of the King James Bible
or
> > > > >> of Humanae Vita will illuminate the conflict in the North of
> > > >Ireland.
> > > > >> Only very, very marginally.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scriptures can be used - and are, all the time - in
> >diametrically
> > > > >> opposed ways to support almost any political stance.
'Islam',
> > > > >> nowadays, is essentially a tribal badge - just like 'The
West'.
> > > > >> The tribes have grown to existence along many different
routes
> > > > >> - economic, historic, & the rest. The religion of the tribe
> > > >(whether
> > > > >> Islam or Humanist Capitalism) is now little more than a handy
> > > > >> combustible to fuel the fire.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scottie B.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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