Re: "But Captain Jack will get you high tonight..."

heh...what's funny about all this (to me) is that I've completely lost
the referent for Omlor's World -- I think I vaguely remember it coming
up in an argument with Daniel, but that's it.

Oh wait...it's coming back to me. It had to do with the presence of
politics in everything. Daniel seemed to assert that some truths were
apolitical, or transcendent, and John O. asserted that Daniel was living
in a world different from his, where everything had political
implications.

What I suggested was that both were true. The totality includes the
transcendent and the political, both coexist at all times in the same
objects, and to deny one or the other is to make a mistake.

John O's assertions below are neither here nor there -- we see things we
want to see that aren't there, and don't see things we don't want to see
that are there. Predisposition works both ways, so ultimately can't be
used as an arbitur in these kinds of questions.

The chemical thing, well, I've read Huxley's book exploring the use of
drugs and his attempt to describe religious experience in those terms,
and honestly it read something like a description of heterosexual sex by
someone who's never done anything but masturbated.

There are layers of experience that are lost or simply mistaken for an
equivalent sensation.

C.S. Lewis wrote a very nice essay about this phenomena and various
interpretations of it called "Transposition."

Luke -- so after saying all this, it's not that we can opt out of
Omlor's world if we want to. We can't. We're just ignoring the things
he brings to the surface if we do, just as he ignores what you bring to
the surface, judging it irrelevant.

Now, what I meant to say was that Franny's ideals were represented in
"Christ," who isn't to be distinguished from the Fat Ladies of the
world. The Eastern view of this teaching is that there's no ontological
difference between the Fat Lady and Christ, while the Christian view is
that Christ lovingly identifies Himself with "the least of these," so if
we want to love Him we need to love the Fat Ladies.

So far as Franny was concerned, though -- in relationship to her
personal issue -- this is all one and the same. When she does it
(acting, in her case) for the Fat Lady, she does it for Christ. The
important thing, though, is that she can do it without selling out her
ideals by seeing it as service to her ideals.

Jim

Omlor@aol.com wrote:

> Luke wishes:
>
> "So we don't live in Omlor's world, after all, if we don't want to."
>
> Yes, we do.
>
> Some of us just think we see things. Or want to so badly that we
> convince ourselves we do.
>
> Incidentally, the right chemicals produce a similar effect.
>
> --John (sans Spirit... except the pourable sort)
>
> PS: But he wasn't "in one." Those were computer generated graphics
> and guys in Latex....
>
>
>

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