Re: Of Spirit and Fire (and sex with farm animals)

Well, Omlor, you could take some lessons from Tina about how to construct arguments, outside of calling people "sanctimonious lizards" and comparing them to gay lecherous priests, without explaining the relevance of such a comparison.

luke

-------Original Message-------
From: tina carson <tina_carson@hotmail.com>
Sent: 08/05/03 07:26 PM
To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
Subject: Re: Of Spirit and Fire (and sex with farm animals)

>
> I've been noting the Ashcroft-bashing, (he can't be bashed enough), and was

thinking about the Vonnegut articles about dismantling the constitution, &

it got me searching for an old quote in the back of my head. Found it:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety.
~Ben Franklin
tina

>Well, I've read all the posts today and see only two that need any
response
>from me.
>
>First, to Luke...
>
>Although you might like to reduce my position to simplistic nonsense,
your
>notion that I cannot use the preservation of the Bill of Rights and what
I
>happen to feel are simple, pleasant human freedoms as an argument in
favor
>of
>crucifying this moron is simply absurd. Nothing in my position says any
>such thing.
>
>John Ashcroft is a slimy, sanctimonious lizard who believes the world
>should
>be Christianized and that he can rewrite the Constitution at will based
on
>nothing more than what you naively call his "faith" and then pretend it's

>in the
>best interests of the American people because he's protecting us from
>religious fanatics like himself who just happen to bow and scrape to a
>different
>story.
>
>Besides that, he routinely has sex with sheep, and perhaps other farm
>animals
>as well. And I feel in no way compelled or even interested in proving
any
>of
>this to you. It's all easy enough for anyone to see.
>
>And yes, the problem is both power and faith. And with dudes like
Ashcroft
>spitting their hatred and paranoia and trying to pry his drooling,
leering
>way
>into my bedroom and Christian fanatics burning books and Muslim fanatics
>flying planes into buildings and preachers bilking retirees out of the
>money they
>need to live and priests poking twelve year old boys in the rectory and
all
>of
>the rest of it, I feel no hesitation at all in crying out "Save me from
>this
>'Faith.'"
>
>Thankful for the non-faithful,
>
>--John
>
>
>
>
>
>

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