RE: The real problem...

Go back to where I made that point in my original post, entitled "Of me (by
comparison)," and you'll see that I specified precisely how our rhetorics
are, in a number of ways, drastically different.
John O.

You did make that claim, and there are some differences on the surface but
it remains a claim John.
Daniel

And I am not appealing to Derrida's motives when I talk about his texts
relying on and never rejecting or refusing reason. I am relying on what the
texts say.
John O.

Yes the texts make claims to reason just like you do but his dance on the
deconstructive jetty wash those claims away like a breaking wave. So all
you are left is with motive since the claims of reason are self annihilated
or maybe your claims are mere rhetoric to bolster the appearance of a love
for wisdom.
Daniel

And Daniel, the old "texts have no shared meaning so how can you argue what
they mean" nonsense is a red-herring. As the citations in my long post
demonstrate, neither Derrida nor I are claiming that texts "stand alone" or
have no shared meaning. Quite the opposite. Derrida claims that the
interpretation of texts takes place within specific, fixed fields of meaning
and determinate shared discourses and also always in relation to other
texts. In fact, I quoted him at length saying precisely this.
John O.

You have not said this relative to Derrida but you have supported it
concerning other texts. Or should I say texts you consider profane.
Daniel

This is why this discussion is a waste of time.
John O.

You repeat yourself, we already know that discourse of rhetoric void of
meaning is the law in Omlor world therefore a waste of time but O King of
Omlor suffer but a little while longer with me your worthless servant.
Daniel

Finally, you say:

"You base your view of Derrida on all he has written...."

Yup. Imagine that.

I knew I was getting through to someone.
John O.

Go back to Tim's archive and see what you had to say concerning texts in
general and Authors and meaning. I am glad that you are taking Derrida as a
whole but I say you should take everything as a whole. It might mean the
demotion of rhetoric and a loss of power for you. After all these month's
we discover that John actually does not see texts as texts with a field of
meaning but rather a body of thought of an author. You are not far from the
exit of Omlor world John where light is a privileged word for good reason.
Daniel
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