well, doesn't he write a character's entire history then intertwine two or
more with a short story idea? it's brain breaking, to say the least.
especially looking at the chronology of the caulfield stories and when the
glasses started coming into play. my far out thought was that he started
leaning toward the east once the very first glass was happened upon. he SAW
MORE. or something like that. i mean, "ocean full of bowling balls" looks
less like a story than a historical set for CITR. "peter pans" looks less
like a story than a fleshing out of the mary moriarty and vincent caulfield
characters. "mayonnaise sandwich" looks like a throw together story published
for some spare change towards catcher, and "i'm crazy" and "slight rebellion"
look like shameless advertisements for his big book.
>>> haikux2@yahoo.com 08/27/03 09:10AM >>>
mike has a very good point re us not knowing for sure
when he wrote specific stories. from yogoda we do
know that bananafish existed as early as jan 47,
lacking the opening scene. since teddy wasn't
published until 53, one is *probably* on safe ground
to assert bananafish predates teddy. i grant we don't
know when jds set foot in the vedanta temple around
the corner from his parents' place. it's even
conceivable it was right after his return from the
war. the first overt reference to eastern philosophy
is in catcher; we know in i think 51 jds wanted his
british publisher to publish the gospel of sri
ramakrisna.
and now that i think of it, jds said on one of those
glass dust jackets he has several glass stories waxing
and waning--which leads one to think his compositional
mode was perhaps to have more than one story going at
the same time.
the paucity of hard facts re him and his work is
frustrating. i'm not even sure he was born....
kim
--- ANELLO Michael J <Michael.J.Anello@state.or.us>
wrote:
> who "knows" when he wrote teddy. or bananafish.
> isn't all that's "known" is
> when the stories were published? do you know
> because you looked? at what?
> i'll go look. i'm not saying he wrote teddy before
> bananafish or anything
> like that. i'm just saying that sometimes something
> is achieved by arguing
> outside "the box." relying on only what's known are
> the last words of the
> person who's afraid of being wrong at all costs.
>
> >>> jrovira@drew.edu 08/27/03 08:27AM >>>
> Yeah, yeah, you're right, the application of any
> specific method must be
> rigid and no one knows the facts.
>
> These are the last words of the person who hasn't
> tried looking....
>
> Like I said, both approaches have their merits. I
> agree that Salinger
> "always knew what he wanted to write about," but how
> he wrote about it
> changed over time, and even some of the things he
> said. It doesn't hurt
> to pay attention to simple facts like publication
> dates vs. themes
> introduced.
>
> His stories weren't originally released all at once
> in little white
> books, you know.
>
> Jim
>
> ANELLO Michael J wrote:
>
> >just because i like fart and poop jokes. dan, you
> were right, they caught
> >wind of me!
> >
> >
> >i think salinger always knew what he wanted to
> write about. so what if he
> >hadn't read any vedanta before teddy.
> >
> >does rigorous have linguistic ties to "rigid." ?
> >
> >i's jes wundren. facts are facts, of course. but,
> who really knows the
> >facts. salinger's biographers? the people who
> wrote the bible? or
> salinger.
> > and god.
> >
> >(dangit, dale!)
> >
> >
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