In a message dated 8/1/99 9:17:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, c_scaysbrook@yahoo.com writes: << > Thor, if you really are Mensa material and only have less than the > equivalent of a High School education, you're wasting yourself. Sooo > much potential going to waste. You have capabilities you haven't even > begun to explore. Maybe you can bench press 250 lbs intellectually, but > I bet you'd be capable of over 500 with some workouts :) > > Jim Whoa, coming back to that Intelligence and Creativity thread, that would REALLY fly in the face of Salinger's opinion of intellect vs. intelligence. I guess it all comes down to how you judge intelligence. To me it's being able to know when to speak and when not to, not how much of War & Peace you can recite. Anyway, Mensa is just a bunch of intellectual elitists, like pinning a badge to yourself reading I AM SMART. That episode of the Simpsons sending it up was brilliance. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com >> Nah, I think what I'm saying is separate from the intelligence/intellect issue. What I'm talking about is the development of our natural capacities through training and discipline. What Salinger appeared to me to be talking about is the misuse of our natural capacity to serve our vanity. Totally different thing. Really, a second rate intellect...or a third rate intellect...could be a good section man. However, reading "Teddy" I do think Teddy himself, at least, would disagree with my views of our educational system. But it's not that he's anti-education, it's that the educational model he favors is totally different from our own. The philosophy behind it comes from a completely different point of view. That's a diff. subject, tho. Jim