Pet Sounds

Car Land Er Son (lost_hopes@hotmail.com)
Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:20:28 -0400 (EDT)

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>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Re: same name (call for help included)
>	by Laughing Man <the_laughing_man@hotmail.com>
>   2) Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>   3) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>   4) Re: This is my first message
>	by Laughing Man <the_laughing_man@hotmail.com>
>   5) letter to list
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>   6) Re: same name (call for help included)
>	by Squeila@aol.com
>   7) Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>	by Tim O'Connor <oconnort@nyu.edu>
>   8) Re: letter to list
>	by Jean Hantman <j.hantman@worldnet.att.net>
>   9) Re: letter to list
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>  10) Re: letter to list
>	by Sundeep Dougal <holden@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in>
>  11) Dylan only?
>	by Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>  12) Abra and Zen
>	by Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>  13) Me and my macaroni
>	by Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>  14) Re: Me and my macaroni
>	by jason varsoke <jjv@caesun.msd.ray.com>
>  15) Re: letter to list
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>  16) Re: Waker ( a bit long)
>	by Jean Hantman <j.hantman@worldnet.att.net>
>  17) Re: Dylan only?
>	by "Byrd, Steven T                 " <BYRDS@papa.uncp.edu>
>  18) Re: Abra and Zen
>	by ABRA <abra@post6.tele.dk>
>  19) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by AntiUtopia@aol.com
>  20) Re: letter to list
>	by AntiUtopia@aol.com
>  21) Re: letter to list
>	by AntiUtopia@aol.com
>  22) Re: This is my first message
>	by Ed Fenning <ed361@yahoo.com>
>  23) Re: letter to list
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>  24) Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>	by "Cecilia A. Baader" <cbaader@my-Deja.com>
>  25) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>  26) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>  27) Re: letter to list
>	by Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>  28) Re: letter to list
>	by Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>  29) Gardening at Night
>	by Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>  30) Re: letter to list
>	by Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>  31) Re: letter to list
>	by Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>  32) Re: Gardening at Night
>	by Kidneyboy@aol.com
>  33) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by AntiUtopia@aol.com
>  34) Re: letter to list
>	by AntiUtopia@aol.com
>  35) Re: Star Wars Racist?
>	by Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>  36) Re: Me and my macaroni
>	by Catherine Marie <tangerineness@hotmail.com>
>  37) Re: Me and my macaroni
>	by Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>  38) Re: letter to list
>	by Mike42082@aol.com
>  39) Re: Me and my macaroni
>	by "rev. bob pigeon" <sid-vicious@mindspring.com>
>  40) identity revealed
>	by Scottie Bowman <rbowman@indigo.ie>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Laughing Man <the_laughing_man@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: same name (call for help included)
>Message-ID: <19990803085752.14947.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>Is there any way of getting hold of this book? I'm waiting for "Hapworth 
>16,
>1924", but some of you seem to have read this and other (like 'complete
>uncollected...') bootleg (?) copies of JDS' less famous work. Why is only
>Laughing Man kept in the dark?
>
>/Your Humble Servant
>TLM,
>in need of HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
>
>
> >From: Squeila@aol.com
> >Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >Subject: same name
> >Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >I just finished reading some stories in The Complete Uncollected...
> >including Slight Rebellion Off Madison and ...No Waist At All, and I
> >noticed
> >that the couple that Ray and Barbara meet in Waist have the last name as
> >Sally in Rebellion (and Catcher?).  Is it common thought that these 
>people
> >are meant to be related?
> >
> >Leila
>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 05:01:48 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>Message-ID: <199908030901.FAA16350@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>  New York appears to be in the middle of a drought and there's no water in
>the pond.
>
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Quel Desastre!  We'll send an iceberg down from the Great White North
>immediately, to keep all Gothamites cool, and moisten up Manhattan when it
>melts....  Could you make arrangements, Tim, to have it towed directly to
>the duck pond in Central Park South?
>
>Welcome back, Cecilia...
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 05:03:35 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <199908030903.FAA16406@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>My daughter's pregnant?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 02:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Laughing Man <the_laughing_man@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: This is my first message
>Message-ID: <19990803095728.75561.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>Welcome Carl! I know what you mean about the “why bother”-thoughts. Often
>before you get real into something, it doesn’t make as much sense as when
>you are in the middle of it. Perspectives are funny things. Like Camille (I
>think it was), I agree that almost no blabber is blabber enough, once you
>get started. So join in the fun.
>
>I for one think it is splendid to listen to conversations from ppl I don’t
>know. I haven’t met many 16-year olds since I was a teenager myself some
>hundred of years ago, with whom I in real life would discuss literature on
>equal terms. The situations just aren’t there. I worked extra as a high
>school teacher during my university studies, and met many bright students,
>but to call the discussions we had there “on equal terms” would be
>stretching it. On forum like this, of course the words of some of the
>bulk-posters have a somewhat heavier impact than yours or mine. But write
>interesting stuff, and what you write counts as it stands. No more and no
>less. That is the beauty of it.
>
>Again, welcome. I am sure you can hold quite intelligent conversation, so
>conversate away!
>
>/TLM
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 06:23:00 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: letter to list
>Message-ID: <199908031023.GAA18676@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>I'm trying to find a place for Scottie in the canon... (NOT a cannon!  THE
>canon, the Salinger canon....)  I can't....
>
>It's a silly game, really.  But there's no doubt in my mind that Camille is
>either Esme or Phoebe.  Sonny is Seymour--'though I'd hardly want to wish
>that heavy mantle onto such a nice man.  We're all wannabe Holdens.  Where
>does Scottie fit in?
>
>I can't think of a character he resembles in anything of Salinger's I've
>read.  In fact, it's necessary to regress further into my literary past to
>find someone with Scottie'
>s particular blend of loveable grumblings....  Scottie is Eeyore.  Toss him
>some gorse and he'll be happier than Holden anticipating his rendez-vous
>with Sally at the Biltmore....  He just needs something gritty to chew on.
>
>Tim, by the way, is Owl.  No doubt about it.  Camille is Kanga....
>
>(and originals of ALL the above--plus, of course, Pooh--can be seen on the
>second floor of the NY Public Library, right across the street from 
>MOMA....
>
>Regards,
>
>Tigger
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:08:46 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Squeila@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: same name (call for help included)
>Message-ID: <c710380b.24d843de@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 99-08-03 04:59:54 EDT, you write:
>
><< Is there any way of getting hold of this book? I'm waiting for "Hapworth
>16,
>  1924", but some of you seem to have read this and other (like 'complete
>  uncollected...') bootleg (?) copies of JDS' less famous work. Why is only
>  Laughing Man kept in the dark?
>
>  /Your Humble Servant
>  TLM,
>  in need of HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
>   >>
>
>where do you live?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:15:43 -0400
>From: Tim O'Connor <oconnort@nyu.edu>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>Message-ID: <19990803091543.A26324@anthrax.acf.nyu.edu>
>
>On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 05:01:48AM -0400, Paul Kennedy wrote:
>
> >  New York appears to be in the middle of a drought and there's no water 
>in
> > the pond.
> >
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Quel Desastre!  We'll send an iceberg down from the Great White North
> > immediately, to keep all Gothamites cool, and moisten up Manhattan when 
>it
> > melts....  Could you make arrangements, Tim, to have it towed directly 
>to
> > the duck pond in Central Park South?
>
>I'll see aboot that, eh?  I haven't checked on the pond recently (now
>that I no longer live adjacent to the park, I don't see it as often),
>but all icebergs are welcome.  In fact, half the boulders in the park,
>contrived as they are, are the result of glacial activity back when
>Seymour was a boy.  So, Paul, you can not only save the ducks, but you
>can leave your own mark on Central Park without getting a ticket from
>our Lord Mayor.
>
>BTW, did I say that I laughed mightily when I read the summaries of who
>did and said what to whom?
>
>Boy, did I need a good laugh.
>
>--tim
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:25:13 -0400
>From: Jean Hantman <j.hantman@worldnet.att.net>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <000e01beddcc$c5c76ac0$ded44e0c@JHantman>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Kennedy <kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>
>Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 6:23 AM
>Subject: letter to list
>
>
> >I'm trying to find a place for Scottie in the canon... (NOT a cannon!  
>THE
> >canon, the Salinger canon....)  I can't....
> >
> >It's a silly game, really.  But there's no doubt in my mind that Camille 
>is
> >either Esme or Phoebe.  Sonny is Seymour--'though I'd hardly want to wish
> >that heavy mantle onto such a nice man.  We're all wannabe Holdens.  
>Where
> >does Scottie fit in?
> >
> >Tigger
>
>Can I be the Catholic mother?
>
>Jean
>
>
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <199908031649.MAA29440@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>
> >
> >Can I be the Catholic mother?
> >
> >Jean
> >
> >
>
>
>Bessie's up for grabs, to be sure.  But I think, for the rules of the game
>to work right, somebody else has to say that you're "like Buddy" or "very
>similar to Allie C."....  Otherwise, we'd all end up being Zooey, or 
>Holden.
>And nobody, but nobody would be Ackley....
>
>I've just realized--to paraphrase Dorothy Parker--that Salinger's 
>characters
>run the spectrum from Ackley to Zooey!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:43:23 +0530
>From: Sundeep Dougal <holden@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <006201beddd3$f945ed20$4c3a36ca@default>
>
>
>I must protest at this slur on my fair name. First, I am called that
>suicidee (and to think I am past that viable, diable age by at least 3
>years now) and then the epithet "nice" is hurled at me with a finality
>that leaves me gasping under its impact and weight.
>
>I also contest the assertion that we are all "wannabe" Holdens. I submit
>that we all _are_ Holden, to some degree or the other. As for me, since
>almost all the girls and women I know seem to prefer Zooey or Buddy, my
>endeavour has been to strive to be like them (not the girls and women,
>let me add by way of a parenthetical clarification). Not very
>successfully, as they, and ye all, will readily testify. Come to think
>of it, I rather like the idea of being Bessie too, with all those kimono
>pockets and those conversations with Zooey over various cigarettes and
>such.
>
>Somehow Tim and Scottie remind me of them. Tim, I envy you for that
>concert with Bob & Paul. Why, even I would happily let anyone trample
>over my feet (ah, feet!), if they were carrying a similar placard.
>
>Scottie? He is the closest to Holden I can think of -- as irreverent as
>ever, and still managing to remain endearingly lovable, though I can
>just about imagine him bristling at being described thus, twirling those
>moustaches and putting on his most ginormous sneer to refute even the
>remotest possibility of any such rumoured similarity.
>
>And while I am at it, let me also clarify that much as I might miss the
>good old days sometines, it is only in the spirit of those extra country
>singers it allegedly takes to fix a fused light bulb.
>
>Sonny,
>thinking of DENSA and that Groucho remark about memberships to clubs,
>but also nodding enthusiastically at all those fond of REM. "I am not
>over you".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:37:11 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Dylan only?
>Message-ID: <19990803173712.76170.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
> >	BOB DYLAN
> >	IS THE ONLY
> >	SONGWRITER
> >	ALMOST AS GOOD
> >	AS LEONARD COHEN
>
>       in 1966 a young man by the name of Brian Wilson created an album
>called Pet Sounds.  I think he deserves a little praise and worship for his
>abilities in creating a perfect example of Zen in the idea that words are
>too restrictive, at times, to express emotions as well as a beautiful 
>album.
>   Words are not a few of favorite things.
>
>                  -Carl
>.
>
>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:00:14 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Abra and Zen
>Message-ID: <19990803180014.77037.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
> >I learned a long time ago that it´s better to just say things the
> >way that you feel them
>
>
>              only if you know what you're going to say before you start to
>talk.
>
> >And for being Zen... I try
>
>            When I was around five or six years old I remember waking up
>Saturday mornings so happy all I could do was lie in bed and squirm and
>laugh into my pillow because I was so happy.  I was so happy yet I couldn't
>tell anyone how I felt.
>            A couple years ago before I really started reading and writing 
>I
>used to sit at a piano and play whatever I felt like.  I couldn't, and 
>still
>can't, read music so I just played my own mutilated melodies.
>
>            sometimes we behave in a Zen manner with out knowing it
>
>             I don't know.  I felt I had to say that
>
>
>               -Carl
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:18:58 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Me and my macaroni
>Message-ID: <19990803181859.18150.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
>      This could go along with a couple of messages, I think.
>
>       In school friends of mine, the smarter one at least, read books.
>However I was always sort of disappointed in myself because they had always
>read more than I did.  After I had started reading and writing I felt I
>could have more in common with them.  I had read To Kill a Mockingbird,
>Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, and other almost quintessential
>required high school novels, I found my friends any I could not share what
>we both had read.  They had no opinions on the books the had read.  All 
>they
>said was, "Oh yeah.  I've read that."  They read simply to try to be well
>read.  In the time in takes me to read F&Z they've read 3 more books that
>were once considered great works.  "Oh yeah.  I've read that."  These 
>people
>are the smartest people I know.  Their intellect and mine I would like to
>consider equal.  I just think it's placed in different areas and while
>they'll earn $120,000, I'll be at home reading Seymour an introduction for
>the 39th time with Kraft dinner on the stove.
>                I think the educational system is somewhat to blame for 
>this
>happening but deep down it's the individual.
>
>
>              -Car
>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:44:25 -0400 (EDT)
>From: jason varsoke <jjv@caesun.msd.ray.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Me and my macaroni
>Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9908031443190.3966-100000@slpkbz.msd.ray.com>
>
> > consider equal.  I just think it's placed in different areas and while
> > they'll earn $120,000, I'll be at home reading Seymour an introduction 
>for
> > the 39th time with Kraft dinner on the stove.
>
>yeah, I feel kinda sorry for them too.
>
> >                I think the educational system is somewhat to blame for 
>this
> > happening but deep down it's the individual.
> >              -Car
>
>-jason
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:57:20 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <199908031857.OAA17944@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>First off, methinks the gentleman doth protest to much:
>
> >
> >I must protest at this slur on my fair name. First, I am called that
> >suicidee
>
>But Sonny, doesn't everybody who cybersurfs their way to your webpage
>confront some sort of heading, right at the top, proclaiming "Sonny: An
>Introduction"? It's an OBVIOUS allusion.... (I previously thought that
>Napoleon was the only person capable of annointing himself--but since the
>hat seems almost to fit in this case, I'd hoped you'd wear it, ESPECIALLY
>since you've past the dangerous age....  I meant it as a compliment, 
>honest!)
>
>
>  and then the epithet "nice" is hurled at me with a finality
> >that leaves me gasping under its impact and weight.
> >
>
>
>I'm guilty as charged in THIS instance.  I can't believe I called you
>"nice".... I can't believe I called ANYbody 'nice'.... You're charming, and
>erudite, and enlightened, and insightful.... You're funny, and articulate,
>and serious, and friendly....  But nice?  I'm SO sorry!
>
>(OSR:  For the record, on page 1 of TCitR, Holden tells us that his parents 
>are
>         "nice and all--but they're also touchy as hell"....
>
>
>
> >
> > since
> >almost all the girls and women I know seem to prefer Zooey or Buddy, my
> >endeavour has been to strive to be like them
>
>
>
>To be honest, I've always found Buddy to be a bit of a windbag....  In 
>fact,
>I usually try to trim my personal sails whenever I feel my prose 
>approaching
>that found in Buddy's breezy--and sometimes boring--paragraphs.  He's 
>smart,
>but he knows it, and he likes to show that he knows it.  Otherwise, he'd be
>Seymour--and this little orb ain't big enough for TWO Seymours....  (Zooey
>is another matter.  I'd be happy to be cast as Z. Glass in our class
>play--so long as the fishbowl will allow me to say my initial is ZED... Not
>ZEE!.... He'd say it as ZED to acknowledge his Australian heritage, Right
>Camille?)  (....more likely, though, I'll be nominated for the role of Ward
>Stradlater.... Or, given my advanced age, Old Spencer....  You ought to 
>take
>Seymour as the compliment it's intended to be....)
>
>
>
> >
> >Scottie? He is the closest to Holden I can think of -- as irreverent as
> >ever, and still managing to remain endearingly lovable
>
>
>
>NOW I think you're on to something.  I've never previously tried to imagine
>Holden growing up.... In my mind, he'll always be sixteen....  But it would
>be a wonderful twist on the school of thinking that says the book is
>dictated to a shrink if we learn that Holden grew up, graduated from
>university, went to med school, became an analyst, moved to Dublin, and
>changed his name to Scottie!
>
>Confirm or deny, Mr. Bowperson!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:25:15 -0400
>From: Jean Hantman <j.hantman@worldnet.att.net>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Waker ( a bit long)
>Message-ID: <005e01bedde5$ed56f1a0$ded44e0c@JHantman>
>
>
>
> >
> >So....*ahem*...why did Waker join the priesthood?
> >
> >Sorry 'bout the sermonizing,
> >--Mark
>
>Joined the priesthood to separate and escape from a family determinedly
>eccentric.
>
>Jean
>
> >_____________________________________________________________
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:49:04 +0000
>From: "Byrd, Steven T                 " <BYRDS@papa.uncp.edu>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Cc: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Dylan only?
>Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-vms-b4.990803154758.47456B-100000@papa.uncp.edu>
>
>
>tom waits tom waits tom waits tom waits tom waits tom waits tom waits
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:49:58 +0200
>From: ABRA <abra@post6.tele.dk>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Abra and Zen
>Message-ID: <37A747E6.144F@post6.tele.dk>
>
>Car Land Er Son wrote:
>
>Wow, I got a thread named after me... *S*
>
> > >I learned a long time ago that it´s better to just say things the
> > >way that you feel them
> >
> >              only if you know what you're going to say before you start 
>to
> > talk.
>
>I totally agree... Which is why, for me at least, it is far easier
>to write than speak your mind...
>
> >            A couple years ago before I really started reading and 
>writing I
> > used to sit at a piano and play whatever I felt like.  I couldn't, and 
>still
> > can't, read music so I just played my own mutilated melodies.
>
>I read music, but not just off the sheet... I have to practise a lot,
>and I´m not really that good on either piano or guitar, although I
>can play both enough to satisfy myself (and to make my old bandmates
>know what I wanted them to play...) I´m actually a drummer, so
>rhythm is more my game...
>
>Lots of famous musicians can´t read music - Paul McCartney comes to
>mind - which goes to show that creating is not necessarily something
>you do with your brain...
>
>Some of the best tunes just comes to you out of the blue sky...
>I know that has happened for me several times... You hear some
>line that sounds good, and suddenly the music comes to you...
>
>And speaking of Paul McCartney - I read that he woke up one morning
>with some music and lyrics in his head... He finished the song, it
>was called "Scrambled Eggs"... But something was missing, so he
>worked on it a bit more... Then it turned into "Yesterday"...
>Now THAT is certainly something to dream about...
>
>I wonder if Salinger ever got any ideas in his sleep???
>
>Abra
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:09:03 -0400 (EDT)
>From: AntiUtopia@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <d867e858.24d8a65f@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 8/2/99 10:41:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
><<
>  And then I realize - she's a fictional character. It's not like I can go
>  interview her and find all this out. I can only speculate.  So, hey,
>  pregnancy was one speculation. I'm sure three years from now when I
>  reread, I'll come up with something else. And it'll keep happening every
>  time I reread it, I suppose.
>
>  I'll try not to take it so far next time! :)
>
>  Anna >>
>
>Oh, yeah, a good bit of my opinion was based upon what's in Zooey...so if 
>you
>only read Franny that may be a different story.  I originally read the two
>together as one story, and they weren't originally published that way, I
>don't think.
>
>So I've always been a bit biased :)
>
>Jim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:15:14 -0400 (EDT)
>From: AntiUtopia@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <7ab3fd2d.24d8a7d2@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 8/3/99 6:24:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca writes:
>
><< Tim, by the way, is Owl.  No doubt about it.  Camille is Kanga....
>
>  (and originals of ALL the above--plus, of course, Pooh--can be seen on 
>the
>  second floor of the NY Public Library, right across the street from 
>MOMA....
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Tigger >>
>
>nonono :)  Camille is a Glass family member, no doubt about it.  A one time
>guest star on Wise Child.
>
>Jim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:17:48 -0400 (EDT)
>From: AntiUtopia@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <81c457c7.24d8a86c@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 8/3/99 12:30:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>j.hantman@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
><< Can I be the Catholic mother?
>
>  Jean >>
>
>Yes, cause you're the only one who wants to be :)
>
>Jim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Ed Fenning <ed361@yahoo.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: This is my first message
>Message-ID: <19990803221003.25383.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>
>
>--- Carl and er son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     I've been reading this list and the messages for
> > a couple weeks now and
> > I've finally had the motivation to write about my
> > existence on this list
>
>Carl,
>Welcome to the list from another new person.  I enjoyed your posting
>about "mutilated melodies", keep on writin' when you have something you
>want to say.  If you like REM and their guitar sound, go check out
>Quicksilver Messenger Service (San Francisco, late '60's).  If you
>haven't already, raid your parents' record collection for the Allman
>Brothers and Cream...
>and not to forget Duke Ellington, Miles, Billie Holiday, and Coltrane.
>-Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
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> > http://www.msn.com
> >
>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:28:41 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <199908032228.SAA13400@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>I believe, by the way, that The Laughing Man has named himself 
>appropriately....
>
>(which is also a compliment, if anybody's worried about that sort of 
>thing....)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:32:46 -0700
>From: "Cecilia A. Baader" <cbaader@my-Deja.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: So let me see if I've got this one right...
>Message-ID: <FAJFKJFHCDJOFAAA@my-deja.com>
>
>Ah, ne t'inquiete pas, soit content...
>
>The pond is not truly completely empty, it is but a little low.  I, of 
>course, took a little freedom with the facts, as I am sometimes wont to do. 
>  After nearly a week in that fair city, where even a small bottle of water 
>came at a premium price of $2 from your average street vendor, I noticed 
>the lack of it everywhere.
>
>One of my favorite parts of the trip was my meander through Central Park.  
>My friends did not understand my need to visit the pond, but they trailed 
>after me in good humor.  I let them stop to hear the nut who was yelling 
>obscenities in Strawberry Fields, so I think that it all evened out.
>
>Regards,
>Cecilia.
>
>(I'm glad you liked my little summary.)
>---
>"Live your life, do your work, then take your hat."
>-Henry David Thoreau
>
>On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:15:43   Tim O'Connor wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 05:01:48AM -0400, Paul Kennedy wrote:
> >
> >>  New York appears to be in the middle of a drought and there's no water 
>in
> >> the pond.
> >>
> >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> Quel Desastre!  We'll send an iceberg down from the Great White North
> >> immediately, to keep all Gothamites cool, and moisten up Manhattan when 
>it
> >> melts....  Could you make arrangements, Tim, to have it towed directly 
>to
> >> the duck pond in Central Park South?
> >
> >I'll see aboot that, eh?  I haven't checked on the pond recently (now
> >that I no longer live adjacent to the park, I don't see it as often),
> >but all icebergs are welcome.  In fact, half the boulders in the park,
> >contrived as they are, are the result of glacial activity back when
> >Seymour was a boy.  So, Paul, you can not only save the ducks, but you
> >can leave your own mark on Central Park without getting a ticket from
> >our Lord Mayor.
> >
> >BTW, did I say that I laughed mightily when I read the summaries of who
> >did and said what to whom?
> >
> >Boy, did I need a good laugh.
> >
> >--tim
> >
> >
>
>
>--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:54:32 -0400
>From: Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <37A77328.4CD1EAB8@worldnet.att.net>
>
> > I originally read the two
> > together as one story, and they weren't originally published that way, I
> > don't think.
>
>I read them both together as well at first. In fact, I don't even think
>I realized that they weren't the same story the first time I read them.
>But before rereading, i think I had completely forgotten what goes on in
>Zooey.
>
>I was rereading it at work though (while I should have been working,
>tsk,tsk) and I think I gave myself away a few times. Sometimes I just
>couldn't control the laughter while reading Zooey's conversation with
>his mother.
>
>"You know, I"m the only one in this family who has no problems," Zooey
>said.  "And you know why?  Because any time I'm feeling blue or puzzled,
>what I do, I just invite a few people to come visit me in the bathroom,
>and -well we iron things out together, that's all." :)
>
>Now, if Bessie could only visit all of our bathrooms!
>
>Anna
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:10:18 -0400 (EDT)
>From: kennedyp@toronto.cbc.ca (Paul Kennedy)
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <199908032310.TAA16092@ndcx.tor.cbc.ca>
>
>*LOL*   ...and CHOKED out loud, for that matter...
>
>(What the FUCK am I doing on some sort of StarWars list?)
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:44:33 +1000
>From: Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <0FFX00N8B0X718@acf3.nyu.edu>
>
>Paul wrote:
> > I'm trying to find a place for Scottie in the canon... (NOT a cannon!
>THE
> > canon, the Salinger canon....)  I can't....
> >
> > It's a silly game, really.  But there's no doubt in my mind that Camille
>is
> > either Esme or Phoebe.  Sonny is Seymour--'though I'd hardly want to 
>wish
> > that heavy mantle onto such a nice man.  We're all wannabe Holdens.
>Where
> > does Scottie fit in?
>
>Scottie's the agressive bridesmaid with the broad shoulders from `Raise
>High the Roofbeams' (: No! I know - he's the touchy taxi driver that yells
>at Holden for wanting to know where the ducks were (just be glad I didn't
>say Mr Spencer, Holden's history teacher! ). I *like* this game! Therefore
>I'd have to add my 2 cents:
>
>Abra - the adorable deaf-mute man in RHTRBC
>Jim - Zooey (:
>(Interesting - I've always been the list's honourary Esme but I've always
>seen myself as more of a Franny. P.S. no I'm not pregnant!)
>Paul - The Davega bicycle giver whose name I can't remember.
>citycabn - Les Glass (honorary Aussie!)
>
>ah, I'm gonna enjoy working out some more of these!
>
>Yours in pursuit of hunny,
>
>Camille
>verona_beach@geocities.com
>
> > I can't think of a character he resembles in anything of Salinger's I've
> > read.  In fact, it's necessary to regress further into my literary past
>to
> > find someone with Scottie'
> > s particular blend of loveable grumblings....  Scottie is Eeyore.  Toss
>him
> > some gorse and he'll be happier than Holden anticipating his rendez-vous
> > with Sally at the Biltmore....  He just needs something gritty to chew
>on.
> >
> > Tim, by the way, is Owl.  No doubt about it.  Camille is Kanga....
> >
> > (and originals of ALL the above--plus, of course, Pooh--can be seen on
>the
> > second floor of the NY Public Library, right across the street from
>MOMA....
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tigger
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:47:08 +1000
>From: Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <0FFX00NA00YE18@acf3.nyu.edu>
>
>Paul wrote:
> > I'm trying to find a place for Scottie in the canon... (NOT a cannon!
>THE
> > canon, the Salinger canon....)  I can't....
> >
> > It's a silly game, really.  But there's no doubt in my mind that Camille
>is
> > either Esme or Phoebe.  Sonny is Seymour--'though I'd hardly want to 
>wish
> > that heavy mantle onto such a nice man.  We're all wannabe Holdens.
>Where
> > does Scottie fit in?
>
>Scottie's the agressive bridesmaid with the broad shoulders from `Raise
>High the Roofbeams' (: No! I know - he's the touchy taxi driver that yells
>at Holden for wanting to know where the ducks were (just be glad I didn't
>say Mr Spencer, Holden's history teacher! ). I *like* this game! Therefore
>I'd have to add my 2 cents:
>
>Abra - the adorable deaf-mute man in RHTRBC
>Jim - Zooey (:
>(Interesting - I've always been the list's honourary Esme but I've always
>seen myself as more of a Franny. P.S. no I'm not pregnant!)
>Paul - The Davega bicycle giver whose name I can't remember.
>citycabn - Les Glass (honorary Aussie!)
>
>Is a certain Uriel Ushas still on this list? I recall he got very agitated
>when I asked him to 'fess up and admit he really *was* Holden Caulfield.
>
>ah, I'm gonna enjoy working out some more of these!
>
>Yours in pursuit of hunny,
>
>Camille
>verona_beach@geocities.com
>
> > I can't think of a character he resembles in anything of Salinger's I've
> > read.  In fact, it's necessary to regress further into my literary past
>to
> > find someone with Scottie'
> > s particular blend of loveable grumblings....  Scottie is Eeyore.  Toss
>him
> > some gorse and he'll be happier than Holden anticipating his rendez-vous
> > with Sally at the Biltmore....  He just needs something gritty to chew
>on.
> >
> > Tim, by the way, is Owl.  No doubt about it.  Camille is Kanga....
> >
> > (and originals of ALL the above--plus, of course, Pooh--can be seen on
>the
> > second floor of the NY Public Library, right across the street from
>MOMA....
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tigger
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:57:12 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Car Land Er Son <lost_hopes@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Gardening at Night
>Message-ID: <19990804005713.77938.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
> >Listening to `Gardening at Night' by REM ... God what a heavenly song (:
> >
>Camille
>
>
>
>       Yes it is.  What version are you listening to?  Is it the original
>sung-in-falsetto version released in '82 or the more throaty version
>released in '88?  Just wondering...nice to know people still listen to
>'Gardening at Night'.  Ah early R.E.M. music....a forgotten treasure.
>
>                    -Carl
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:51:36 +1000
>From: Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <0FFX00NE71DS18@acf3.nyu.edu>
>
>Paul Kennedy wrote:
> > NOW I think you're on to something.  I've never previously tried to
>imagine
> > Holden growing up.... In my mind, he'll always be sixteen....  But it
>would
> > be a wonderful twist on the school of thinking that says the book is
> > dictated to a shrink if we learn that Holden grew up, graduated from
> > university, went to med school, became an analyst, moved to Dublin, and
> > changed his name to Scottie!
> >
> > Confirm or deny, Mr. Bowperson!
>
>Oh MY! That's brilliant! You've finally blown his secret identity (and here
>was I naively thinking all along that he was just JD Salinger in disguise
>(: ). You've hit the ol' nail on the head, Paul!
>
>Confirm or deny !!!
>
>Camille
>verona_beach@geocities.com
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:55:25 +1000
>From: Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <0FFX00NEA1DV18@acf3.nyu.edu>
>
>Jim wrote:
> > nonono :)  Camille is a Glass family member, no doubt about it.  A one
>time
> > guest star on Wise Child.
>
>Ah, lovely. I like that (: I propose that during Seymour and Buddy's
>adventures in Australian vaudeville an antipodean Wise Child special was
>recorded and I was invited along being one of Les Glasses' whispered-about
>illegitimate downunder children. Did Seymour hit me? No. He hit a little
>kid down by the pier in some badly dressed seersucker shorts who was
>staring at some orange peel sinking into the sea. `Give 'im one for me,
>Seymour!' I may or may not have proclaimed (:
>
>We can always dream,
>
>Camille
>verona_beach@geocities.com
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:36:15 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Kidneyboy@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Gardening at Night
>Message-ID: <e897316d.24d8f30f@aol.com>
>
>Hail all 80's college rock for it is best music ever written.
>
>
>mathew s.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:06:09 -0400 (EDT)
>From: AntiUtopia@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <19daf3ba.24d8fa11@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 8/3/99 7:02:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
><<  "And you know why?  Because any time I'm feeling blue or puzzled,
>  what I do, I just invite a few people to come visit me in the bathroom,
>  and -well we iron things out together, that's all." :)
>
>  Now, if Bessie could only visit all of our bathrooms!
>
>  Anna
>   >>
>
>yeah...that whole conversation was great :).  I mean, even every movement
>described carried about as much meaning as the words between them, if not
>more.
>
>Dangit, ya got me talking about Salinger again :)
>
>Jim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:08:37 -0400 (EDT)
>From: AntiUtopia@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <430a6a6f.24d8faa5@aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 8/3/99 8:59:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>verona_beach@geocities.com writes:
>
><< Jim wrote:
>  > nonono :)  Camille is a Glass family member, no doubt about it.  A one
>  time
>  > guest star on Wise Child.
>
>  Ah, lovely. I like that (: I propose that during Seymour and Buddy's
>  adventures in Australian vaudeville an antipodean Wise Child special was
>  recorded and I was invited along being one of Les Glasses' 
>whispered-about
>  illegitimate downunder children. Did Seymour hit me? No. He hit a little
>  kid down by the pier in some badly dressed seersucker shorts who was
>  staring at some orange peel sinking into the sea. `Give 'im one for me,
>  Seymour!' I may or may not have proclaimed (:
>
>  We can always dream,
>
>  Camille >>
>
>If I'm Zooey, you realize that makes us brother and sister.
>
>Which would actually explain a LOT :)
>
>Jim
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:30:54 -0400
>From: Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Star Wars Racist?
>Message-ID: <37A7A5DD.5A56D28E@worldnet.att.net>
>
> > Dangit, ya got me talking about Salinger again :)
>
>And on a SALINGER list???? You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
>
>Anna
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Catherine Marie <tangerineness@hotmail.com>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Me and my macaroni
>Message-ID: <19990804024046.14913.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>Carl,
>I felt really motivated to respond to your post, but I'm not quite sure 
>what
>to say besides that I agree completely. I am also a teenager, I'm 
>seventeen.
>It is just so refreshing to hear someone my age who actually cares about
>things that matter. I know people like those you mentioned, I really hate
>people who get A's in english, pretend that they like the books in front of
>the teacher, but talk about how stupid the books are outside of class, and
>just don't care. I am forever concerned when I read. I was the only one in
>my class who really loved F+Z. I am also probably the only one in the 
>school
>who reads S:AI "for fun". Besides my truest friend who I am introducing to
>the Glass family. He will turn out like you were saying, ten times more
>intellegent than those others, or at least in the ways that actually 
>matter,
>but at home with unused degrees in philosophy on the wall, macaroni on the
>stove, attempting to figure out to what extent he is motivated by human
>instinct. I'm wimping out, I guess. I'm going into architecture, not 
>English
>or philosophy, but trust me, if 2007 isn't a good year for architects (and
>in truth architecture is really not a good way to get rich anyways) I will
>be sitting in front of the stove spilling artificial cheese all over my 
>more
>tape than paper copy of F+Z.
>                Catherine
>
> >      In school friends of mine, the smarter one at least, read books.
> >However I was always sort of disappointed in myself because they had 
>always
> >read more than I did.  After I had started reading and writing I felt I
> >could have more in common with them.  I had read To Kill a Mockingbird,
> >Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, and other almost quintessential
> >required high school novels, I found my friends any I could not share 
>what
> >we both had read.  They had no opinions on the books the had read.  All
> >they
> >said was, "Oh yeah.  I've read that."  They read simply to try to be well
> >read.  In the time in takes me to read F&Z they've read 3 more books that
> >were once considered great works.  "Oh yeah.  I've read that."  These
> >people
> >are the smartest people I know.  Their intellect and mine I would like to
> >consider equal.  I just think it's placed in different areas and while
> >they'll earn $120,000, I'll be at home reading Seymour an introduction 
>for
> >the 39th time with Kraft dinner on the stove.
> >               I think the educational system is somewhat to blame for 
>this
> >happening but deep down it's the individual.
> >
> >
> >             -Car
> >
> >
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>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 22:41:30 -0400
>From: Anna Lewandowski <AnnaLew@worldnet.att.net>
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: Me and my macaroni
>Message-ID: <37A7A85A.FABA0F26@worldnet.att.net>
>
> > unused degrees in philosophy on the wall, macaroni on the
> > stove,
>
>So that's what I have to look forward to with my philosophy degree? Good
>thing I"m majoring in biology too... although, since I'm not doing med
>school, I don't know what I'm going to do with bio anyway.
>Oh well, it's a good thing I like Mac and Cheese. Oh and when that gets
>too expensive, there's always Ramen...
>
>Anna
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:12:05 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Mike42082@aol.com
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Re: letter to list
>Message-ID: <c0676a14.24d90985@aol.com>
>
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