Right On re HOLDEN! And I think it was extremely perceptive to point out the connection with recent ravings here that seemed to come right out of a Kraft dinner box.... YUCK! I've also been bothered by the parallel ravings on the related topic of reading and writing (...nobody's yet mentioned arithmetic, but I think that's because no true bananafish ever had much time for the sciences....) These are both Very Serious Strands. But I have to confess that I feel a bit silly simply starting to think about them just now, since I thought about them SO MUCH when I was a kid. Even the pop culture back then (which, it will reveal my advancing age to announce WAS SO MUCH BETTER that it could be haut culture now.... Sorry, kids.... That's another topic!)... Even the pop culture back then was thick with it: You read your Emily Dickinson, And I my Robert Frost.... Can our malices be worthwhile? Is the theatre really dead? Anyway.... Since I've somehow managed to make a living with my pen (and my tonsils) for much longer than I'd care to confess, I want to weigh in, finally, on the writing and reading issue. END of PREAMBLE.... (Smart folks will start reading NOW) Today, on my way into work--which, as some fishes will know, includes a ten-kilometre bike ride along the northern shore of Lake Ontario--I got to thinking about a part of the bananafishbowl that I've never actually visited. To tell you the truth, I'm even a little bit afraid about ever going there. It's called the archive.... You see, from time to time, when what seems at the moment like a very clever thought about Holden accidentally pops to the top of my consciousness, I say to myself that I ought to post it on the list. Then a little voice in my left ear (NB-Cecilia***) tells me that the thought is probably already somewhere in the archive. There was a time, long, long ago, when I would have had luxurious leisure time to while away the hours there. Time passes.... I've never read the archives. I probably never will. What does any of this have to do with writing? Let me say from the beginning that I've never read the post-Structuralists (or whatever we're supposed to call all the bullshit that's usually badly translated from the French) or any of the other latter-day literary theorists who, for my money, quite obviously enjoy masturbation much more than they enjoy sex. What a bunch of hooey! (Maybe THIS is where the smart folks should start reading?) Every writer MUST read. Saying anything less is almost like saying that no writer needs to learn how to write.... Reductio ad absurdum.... Why bother with spelling, and grammar? Forget language altogether.... Fuck, that guy over there in the corner sounds like a Great Grunter! Other writers teach you how to write. It's a very strange school, the school of writers.... There's always a bizarre group of students--especially in the early years. But what a faculty! And every professorial door is open 24-hours a day for every student! In fact, one of the great dangers--for would-be writers--is that they linger too long with Professor Salinger.... or Professor Shakespeare.... or Professor Tolstoy..... The library is another danger. It contains all the works of all the professors.... It also contains student theses (often rhymes with feces).... Some students who go there get mired down in the slop pit of other students' theses. The worst of these poor souls are called Sectionmen.... Sectionmen deserve everybody's deepest pity.... Student writers who use the library wisely will not get bogged down or intimidated by what they find there. What they learn will inform their conversations with other students, and allow them to learn even more efficiently from the great professors.... This has gone too far. Smart fishes should start reading NOW! I'm off to the archives... Cheers, Paul > >The messages of recent days from our teenagers bananafishers, discussing >things like majoring in philosophy and feeling alienated by phony peers, >have me thinking about dear Holden and what to make of his meanderings. > >Holden's preoccupation with phonies (which implies, of course, that some >things are actually real), coupled with his chronic disappointment in the >world and its occupants strike me as symptoms of adolescent idealism. This >idealism is probably what makes Holden so endearing. Most of us can identify >with his disillusionment. However, idealism leads him, inevitably I think, >to his breakdown. > >Anyone who becomes engrossed by Salinger should, in my opinion, follow up >with a heavy dose of Shakespeare. Old Bill celebrates the whole of humanity, >including the phonies, lechers, clowns, and cut-throats. Singling out >phonies seems like a waste of time once you discover that all the world's a >stage. > >JD is a god man, an ideal man, and as such, has a natural disdain for our >lowly species. JD's writing is brilliant, beautiful, but it's a temple of >loneliness. > >-Sean > > > >