Re Mr Antolini.. I've been lurking on this list for awhile..enjoying everything vicariously, but in a strange way never felt compelled to post. Yet your reflections about Mr. Antolini echoes my own confusion about this part of the novel. I am a tenth grade English teacher and part of our curriculum is Catcher. It's always my favorite to teach..to see how students respond each year and also to see how I myself will respond...it seems to change. Anyway, enough digression...Antolini..this part has long confused both my students and I. Of course many of them want to jump at the conclusion that Antolini is a pervert --that once again an adult has fallen short of Holden's expectations and requirements. But like you, I can't totally buy that...I think for me it stems back to Mr. Antolini's little drunken lecture to Holden... the old "you're not the first person to be sickened by humanity" stuff...I think, like Holden, Antolini has been there, but has been forced to compromise himself in order to survive...I agree with you that maybe he's in love with Holden's last vestiges of innocence...wants to touch it,,, absorb it somehow to maybe restore that lost or missing or damaged part of himself. Therefore, as an adult, I'm not repulsed by Antolini's gesture...maybe sympathetic and a little frightened at the desperateness of the gesture...and I think that it's that desperateness that freaks Holden out..he intuitively feels/senses the need...and he's too needy himself to be able to withstand that pressure..especially from the man he himself was turning to for guidance. I hope this makes sense... Patti