In a message dated 97-12-08 23:43:33 EST, you write: << Allie was Holden's younger brother who died.>> Thanks. Couldn't remember, and was Too Lazy to pick up my copy and leaf thru it :) <<And about us all needing Phoebe,didn't she disappoint Holden by saying"You don't like anything."There are other things she says that are not of much help to him but I can't remember most of them.He truly did love her,and that was nice,but she didn't really catch him,did she? >> It wasn't that we all need Phoebe, but that Holden did. I think he needed her to say things like, "you don't like anything" to him (whether he liked that or not), and especially to absolutely Refuse to allow him to run off by himself. Jim