A couple hasty replies to various thoughts... I hope I in no way implied an "always" in my discussion of impossible relationships or the blindness of the first fall. I would never maske such an absolute claim of course. I was merely trying to suggest that it happens and that it happens often and that when it happens the impossiblities can often make it painful and even shattering. But it is certainly not the story of every relationship and if by writing "I hope you're wrong" someone meant imply that it was not, so far, the case for his own romantic life, I can only say I hope I'm wrong too. Regarding the text's attitude towards Muriel... Looking back at the story I agree that laughter may be too strong a characterization (although I'm not convinced that Muriel is held up as some sort of balancing force to the Glass' ethereality -- that would seem to me too neat for the amibiguity I find in the story -- also it seems necessary in such a discussion to consider Sybil and her innocence within this context of who's who...). Perhaps it's a question of differences and of surfaces and depths and its clear at least in spots which of all these "sides" offers the more sensitive reaction to the harshness of the world. But I will accept that at least Muriel giggles when she tells her mother what Seymour calls her, as if, at least to some degree, she gets and appreciates the joke (though obviously not completely). Finally, for Helena: according to the *Pulp Fiction* soundtrack Samuel Jackson's speech is supposed to be taken from "Ezekial 25:17." and indeed my cheesy New Revised Standard Edition does have an approximation of that passage right where it should be... But not the whole thing, so this not really an answer.... Meanwhile I heard this just a moment ago on the TV: "If you have to convince the heart, then it's not... Convinced, that is." --Jerry Springer during his "Final Thoughts" on a show with at least five separate fights. Question: which Salinger character would be most likely to be a guest on "Jerry?" (This is what I do with my time.) --John