In a message dated 97-12-10 08:17:31 EST, you write: << She would be different, and that would have destroyed Holden from the outset. Not having faced her, at least he could be angry at Stradlater and assume Jane was still innocent... Brendan >> AAHHHH....you've ruined Jane for me :) Now I have to go back an reread Catcher :) Jim