As of yet I have not had the opportunity to see Dogma. I do however plan to see it at my earliest convenience. You said you read the script online, where? I loved Clerks and Mall Rats and if I'm not mistaken the director here is Silent Bob, right? As far as censorship goes, it's a coincidence you bring it up. I was reading text just this afternoon about Absolutist France and the banning of Voltaire and other Enlightenment thinkers' texts. It just seems to me that while censorship is theoretically valuable, in practice it fails completely (similar to Communism). Blacks and whites, I see where you're coming from. I as well have noted that white people are excluded from the racial comedy issue. They can't say the "n word" for fear of being branded rascist. On the other side, black people can call eachother that and nothing is wrong, they can also call white people "crackers", "honkeys" and whatever white derogatory term is available/in fashion at the time. Really though, after 400 years of oppression (in the UNited States alone, don't forget Africa) I suppose they can call white people whatever they like. "Kill All The White Man" NOFX WDylan --On Wednesday, December 01, 1999, 3:25 PM +0000 depressed@collegemail.com wrote: > Has anyone on the list seen the new Kevin Smith movie Dogma? > The Catholic League has been protesting a lot, telling people not to see > it. I haven't seen it, but I've read the script on the internet and I > think it's great, says a lot of things that are true. It's as if > catholic people can't stand people pointing out the stupid things in the > bible. What's your view on censorship? I know this has nothing to do > with salinger, but hey, you were talking about australian movies. And > censorship, catcher being banned, salinger, err... that's kind of a > link. Or maybe not. > > Still, I started thinking, if this was a movie about muslims, or allah or > something, and made a lot of fun of their religion, everyone would > probably go crazy and say the moviemakers were bigots and racists or > something. It's the same thing as it's ok to make fun of white people, > but if you make fun of black or asian people you're a racist. I've seen > a lot of black stand-up comedians make fun of white people, but never a > white one making fun of black people. And I'm not at all a racist or a > white-supremist, I just started thinking about this. Were there any > black people in salinger's stories? I don't remember. (There, tied it > nicely to salinger ;) > > -Grant- > > > "And then he spun a twisted tale > about a child who cried his name so many times > that even when he yelled, no one ever came" > (grant lee > buffalo) > > _____________________________________________ > Free email with cool domains at FriendlyEmail > http://www.mypad.com/ > >