Re: dogma protests

Wes Temby (tembywd@student.adams.edu)
Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:24:15 -0700

As of yet I have not had the opportunity to see Dogma. I do however plan to
see it at my earliest convenience. You said you read the script online,
where? I loved Clerks and Mall Rats and if I'm not mistaken the director
here is Silent Bob, right?

As far as censorship goes, it's a coincidence you bring it up. I was
reading text just this afternoon about Absolutist France and the banning of
Voltaire and other Enlightenment thinkers' texts. It just seems to me that
while censorship is theoretically valuable, in practice it fails completely
(similar to Communism). 

Blacks and whites, I see where you're coming from. I as well have noted
that white people are excluded from the racial comedy issue. They can't say
the "n word" for fear of being branded rascist. On the other side, black
people can call eachother that and nothing is wrong, they can also call
white people "crackers", "honkeys" and whatever white derogatory term is
available/in fashion at the time. Really though, after 400 years of
oppression (in the UNited States alone, don't forget Africa) I suppose they
can call white people whatever they like.

"Kill All The White Man"
	NOFX

WDylan

--On Wednesday, December 01, 1999, 3:25 PM +0000 depressed@collegemail.com
wrote:

> Has anyone on the list seen the new Kevin Smith movie Dogma?
> The Catholic League has been protesting a lot, telling people not to see
> it. I haven't seen it, but I've read the script on the internet and I
> think it's  great, says a lot of things that are true. It's as if
> catholic people can't  stand people pointing out the stupid things in the
> bible. What's your view on  censorship? I know this has nothing to do
> with salinger, but hey, you were  talking about australian movies. And
> censorship, catcher being banned,  salinger, err... that's kind of a
> link. Or maybe not.
> 
> Still, I started thinking, if this was a movie about muslims, or allah or 
> something, and made a lot of fun of their religion, everyone would
> probably go  crazy and say the moviemakers were bigots and racists or
> something.  It's the same thing as it's ok to make fun of white people,
> but if you make fun  of black or asian people you're a racist. I've seen
> a lot of black stand-up  comedians make fun of white people, but never a
> white one making fun of black  people. And I'm not at all a racist or a
> white-supremist, I just started  thinking about this. Were there any
> black people in salinger's stories? I don't  remember. (There, tied it
> nicely to salinger ;) 
> 
> -Grant-
> 
> 
> "And then he spun a twisted tale
>  about a child who cried his name so many times
>  that even when he yelled, no one ever came"
>                                   (grant lee
> buffalo)
> 
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