Yeah, I suppose I was stating my preference. It's like that "grass is greener on the other side" feeling. There's actually a big situation with the UC and CSU systems. The CSU is accusing the UC's of taking the top 20 or 15 percent of everyhighschool. But this new guy that's head of the california college system is trying to improve all the CSU's to be more competitive with the UC's. As for phonies, I don't know of anyplace anyone could go to get away from phonies(the phony in us and everyone else). That's a very good Vonnegut quote. I heard it in a song, but I always thought it came from somewhere else. If I had grown up in the New York area all my life instead of California, I could see how I'd want to move to California. I wouldn't want to get too hard in NYC, but right now I feel the opposite like I need to get out of California. Plus there's this girl I know in New York who is totally unlike anyone I've ever met;) --- AntiUtopia@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/27/99 11:50:09 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > pariah1980@yahoo.com writes: > > << I'm sorry if I've ruined any one's idea of > California, > and if you haven't been you really should visit, > but > it's like living in a test tube. our way of life is > so > different from the many other kinds out there. > sorry > for rambling, but visiting New York for me was like > going to a whole other world. lol >> > > Of course it was. Jeez. Growing up in CA then > going to New York, or vice > versa, will be radically intense experiences. CA is > genuinely A Whole Other > World. Or, rather, Literally :) There is an > "insulated" quality about it, > that's part of the Edenic effect it has. > > But so far as the writing programs go...I can't > really speak to that. I know > the UC system is pretty incredible over all, > Berkeley being one of the top > rated schools in the country, but I can see more > established writers (of > literary merit) in NY than in CA. I think the UC > system is set up so that > only the top fifteen percent of students can apply, > and in the Engineering > school back in 1982 that meant you needed a 4.0 just > to be considered. > > I'm not trying to run down NYC, my point is that > comparing the two is pretty > useless. All you're really doing is stating your > preferences. I'd rather > raise my kids in any so CA town at least 50 miles > away from LA, but I'd sure > love to live in the city for awhile, at least. > > What did Vonnegut say? Live in NYC once but leave > before you get hard. Live > in San Francisco once but leave before you get soft? > I think that sums it up. > > Jim > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com