In a message dated 12/28/99 11:55:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, Clumsy9irl@aol.com writes: << well, im also a female who loves holden =) i just don't respond to much on this list anymore, though.....if only i could find a guy who could make me laugh as much as holden...a girl can dream, cant she? i tend only to find guys with numerous other psychological problems...issues..they all have issues.... theyre all phonies...damn phonies....well, thats all...wish i could read something enjoyable..rather i am spending my says attempting to wade through the peculiar institution ....about slavery in the ante-bellum south...about as interesting as watching dust collect... a grand new year to all of you...(ok..had to use it just for fun) ~Meredith >> Yeah, but Meredith, Holden had issues...serious psychological issues...too. Quite endearing when you're reading about them but hell to live with :) The real problem is that most men aren't men, they're still boys, and few have ever examined the contents of their own hearts. That's what YOU'RE there for :) Jim