fellow bananafishers it is now 23,50 pm i have put my two speakers at my window, prince's 1999 ready to funk this world into the next millenium happy 2000 yall ---------- >Van: Sundeep Dougal <holden@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in> >Aan: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu >Onderwerp: Happy 2000's >Datum: vri, 31 dec 1999 17:28 > >Since in these parts it's been Y2K for some hours now, and because my >computer hasn't spontaneously combusted, here's adding to the usual best >wishes to all and birthday greetings to old JDS as well. > >Sean it was, I think, who said something about JDS and the puritanical >attitude towards sexuality in his work. I think Holden is only concerned >about 'stopping when asked to stop' or words to that effect, and about >"responsibility", but otherwise is quite comfortable with his sexuality and >other such. His being "seductive as hell" and ruing over how it took him an >hour to get a brassiere off once and how the parents get back home early and >so on almost always kills me, if I allow myself to lapse into his >vernacular. The prudes and the puritans had quite a lot of trouble in that >day and age, from all the available material, and apparently still do. That >by and large, by later or today's permissive standards when nothing really >seems scandolous or shocking, short of anything non-consensual or below a >certain age, is a different matter altogether, but in my book, that is not >phony -- and I am sure this is not just a cultural thing, Holden _is_ as Tim >said the "good" guy and I'd reckon that even today the concerns for a >general adolescent would still be the same. > >I don't know where I am going with this one, and I do not have Sean's >message in front of me, but I read something today which perhaps reminded me >of that message, in a tangential sort of way: > ><quote> >Professional Relationship of the Year > >'There was an atmosphere poised nicely between a seance and >a chess game and the purest flirtation, of the sort you have with >a beloved character in a book, with no question of the vulgar >imposition of the physical.' > >Candia McWilliam, describing her working relationship with Stanley > Kubrick in The Guardian > ><unquote> > >But then I guess one could read the "physical" above in more ways than one >too. > >Anyway, Happy 2000's all. > >Sonny >finally going away for the weekend. > >