Subject: Re: suicide
AntiUtopia@aol.com
Date: Fri Feb 25 2000 - 12:27:23 EST
In a message dated 2/25/00 12:00:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rbowman@indigo.ie writes:
<< To some of us, the voluntary embracing of an avoidable
death for whatever reason - even the salvation of mankind
- has a distinctly suicidal feel to it.
It always seemed to mt that the hint was there - that
Seymour's death was a martyrdom, a martyrdom evoked
to confirm him retrospectively as a kind of messiah.
Scottie B. >>
Good point about the temple, it was more an act of presumption than a
temptation to suicide. But see my other post. While I'm not saying Christ
or the Chargers of the Light Brigade didn't contribute to their deaths, we
have a hard time calling these acts "suicide." Consider Christ or Socrates,
for example. An ENTIRE legal system had to be put into operation in both
those cases. In both cases the victims submitted to the legal system, and
did nothing to prevent their deaths. But other people went WAY out of their
way to kill these two people. Hardly what I would call suicide.
However, Seymour as Christ...now that's a different issue. That people try
to make a Christ out of Seymour is an idea that I recoil against and what
probably started this discussion. There's a big difference between an entire
society conspiring to put you death, and you putting a gun to your head.
I just don't respect the act. He was a coward in pretty well all religious
and philosophical traditions.
Jim
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