Re: suicide


Subject: Re: suicide
AntiUtopia@aol.com
Date: Sun Feb 27 2000 - 19:19:12 EST


In a message dated 2/27/00 6:42:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
invertedforest@angelfire.com writes:

<< Surely the martyrdom of early saints such as St Perpetua and St Felicitas
could be viewed in the same light as Seymour's ecstatic exit. In the record
of their sacrifice to the lions by the Romans it is recorded that they walked
out into the arena wholly jubilant and entirely convinced that they would
soon be united with God, one woman even delivering her own baby a month early
so she would not miss out on being sacrificed with her fellow Christians. To
a late C20th - early C21st audience this rings rather horridly of cult
obsessionism.
 
 ---
 Louise Z. Brooks >>

Simple distinction --

Other person throws you to the lions, you are murdered. (When this is the
outcome of an entire society's judicial system). Other person nails you to a
cross, you are murdered. (Assuming you are innocent of any crime and this is
the outcome of an entire society's judicial system). Other person gives you
poison to drink. You are murdered. (I'm thinking of Socrates being ordered
to take poison by the court of Athens).

You put a gun to your head All On Your Own and pull the trigger, you've
committed suicide.

I'm sorry, but this is getting tedious. The longer I am here the stupider
almost everyone is beginning to sound.

I think I'm starting to identify with Seymour just a little bit here. :) Or
maybe just Camille.

Jim
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