Re: pessimist
WILL HOCHMAN (hochman@uscolo.edu)
Sat, 07 Feb 1998 11:22:22 -0700 (MST)
They're idiots.
Not you Jim, but I don't think you have your facts clear.
Focus on the Family and other groups generated "Ammendment 2" in
colorado--this was an attempt to deny homosexual people civil rights.
Perhaps more central to this list's concern might be attitudes toward
children. Do you know that christian groups in woodland park (the town
next to colorado springs) wanted to ban teaching greek mythology in
schools because it was contrary to christian beliefs in god(s)?
Do you know that James Dobson (since I too am a doctor, I feel confident
in telling you that the title is not a "badge of intelligence and entirely
unnecessary) thinks that we should employ physical force to children when
they misbehave?
Jim, you are absolutely right to point out that there are always different
points of view and reasons to have them, but I'm close to the scene here
and can't deny the facts. The most unpleasant situations I've encountered
have been generated from the most "christian" elements of my community.
You may think Christ was a christian, but I think he was a prophet of god,
not of religion. Christ, buddy....will
On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 AntiUtopia@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-02-07 12:18:54 EST, you write:
>
> << In support of Malc's thinking, evidence Colorado Springs where I
> live...more fundamental christian ministries per capita than any other
> town in the USA and more homophobism and lack of tolerance for
> non-christian religions as well, will
> >>
>
> yep, I'm familiar with what you're talking about. Focus on the Family is
> probably the biggest one up there. Regardless of your opinion of their
> beliefs, you can't say they're idiots. Dr. Dobson himself is out of the USC
> medical center, and if you listen to him speak about areas other than
> homosexuality, I think you'd find him to be reasonable, experienced, and
> intelligent (from what I perceive to be your point of view).
>
> I don't think the answer to perceived intolerance is more intolerance, and I
> don't think an intelligent response to different opinions about sexual
> morality is name-calling (homophobism). Homophobia does exist. I don't
> think everything that is called homophobia is homophobia, however, and I sure
> don't feel anyone has the responsibility to change their beliefs to suit
> others--homosexuals or fundamentalists...
>
> Jim
>