> #2-Helena...Join the club! I feel your little birthday pains...I myself > entered the world only two weeks before you (18 December 1979). This reminds me of a thread that surfaced a while ago, about Billy Joel's 'We Didn't Start the Fire' (or something to that effect). When you think about it, we've really gotten a terrible deal in terms of 'eras' to be born in. The only thing that I can see as being vaguely important historically (i mean that people in the future will see as revolutionary) is the whole net phenomeneon, and even now, it's is so late in its evolution that we can't even see ourselves as innovators anymore. Seriously, I've been a teenager since 1993. All the interesting exciting stuff (Berlin Wall, collapse of Russia, Gulf War) happened when I was really too young to see the significance. I can't remember the Thatcher years as being any different from any other years. I was too late for the e-taking in fields thing, I arrived just in time for the e-taking in clubs thing, and even that whole scene (at least in this country) has collapsed completely since 1996. As far as I can see (don't quote me), people my age are just so eager to be part of a revolution, to achieve something memorable in the way our parents did, that there's just a little mini-movement every five minutes, that life is just becoming more and more fragmented, and less and less cohesive. When you consider that the original 'Generation-X' (not my words), the over-educated, under-employed generation, are now in at least their late twenties (no offense) and experiencing a major economic boom, it becomes obvious that being a slacker is not a lifestyle choice in quite the same way being a hippie was. Like everyone else, we're looking for something, but unlike those who went before, mods, beats, hippies, flappers even, there is no direction. Bloated old rock journalists and 'social critics' are steering the ship. It's just recycle, recycle, recycle. Who remembers goth the first time it was around? Brit-pop? (oasis, come on!) Disco? (Spice Girls anyone...) Is there a parallel between Kate moss and Twiggy? There's a nasty truth to the statement that eveything touted as the coolest new thing has been bloody well done before. My point is that there are no hugely important moral causes like women's lib or civil rights, or us withdrawal from vietnam, or even fucking poll tax, to complain about. Yeah, lets's cost the taxpayer a few dozen million pounds and save a few badgers. I don't think anyone cares anymore... There's no exciting rebellious revolution to join in... And to bring this all back to a close, I would like to say that apart from all the many reasons there are to like Salinger's writing, some of it I like because of the setting and the syntax of the dialogue, in that i have a romanticised view of what holden's or franny's time was like. I enjoy being able to sink into a book and be transported far away from Clinton's flaccid sex life and the top 40... from Oprah's book club and the new cK camapaign... to a time when people dressed well, cared about the theatre, drank martinis and highballs and... oh, you know what i mean. :helena -- http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/4801/