In a message dated 98-02-16 10:17:45 EST, you write: <<i have always thought that lane wasn't there as a foil to franny. if you think about it, he does love her, and he obviously cares about her, he's just, well, he's a boy really, and we all know that boys don't deal with hysterical women particularly well. especially ones who cry. >> I just started rereading F and Z because, among other things, I wanted to find something Franny in particular said about knowledge and other subjects. So I'm first confronted with Lane. Yes, he's a boy. He's a pretentious college boy, among other things, classed with those who pontificate upon world "highly controversial issues" as if they alone finally saw the real solution to the problem. This is particularly male, and particularly college aged male. It comes with having had one or two classes in a subject--just enough to make you think you know something, but not enough to let you see how much you don't. This isn't a terrible fault, just one to be outgrown. But Lane is also a bit intriguing because he seemed to genuinely appreciate Rilke, who happened to be Seymour's favorite poet during at least one point of his life. If I were to nail Lane down to One Particular Flaw, it's that he's so much into his head and his ideas, and the pretentions that go along with this type of intellectual, that he's uncomfortable with his emotions and the emotions of others. This would be revealed in part by his inability to deal with a hysterical Franny, but extends to his inability to face honestly, and express honestly, his own feelings. Yes, he obviously loves Franny. He read her letter several times. He carried it with him wherever he went. But when she asked him if he got it, he acted like he didn't know what she was talking about. He also "deliberately," according to the narrative, attempted to empty his face of all expression indicating his joy in seeing Franny. If this isn't enough, the first thing we Really know about Lane directly is through Franny's letter. He's hopelessly super male and reticent. She's used to him analyzing her, picking at her spelling, etc, etc. She complains that he doesn't express his feelings to her enough in a letter he cherishes because she gushes over him. DANG this all sounds familiar :) Anyway, saying Lane is a foil is not quite enough. <<i'm of the belief that if franny didn't see *some* good in him, she wouldn't be going out with him. she likes him, but, as in all relationships, there are things about him that she despises. i think we've just caught them at a time when lane is at a loss for how to handle the situation, and comes accross particulary poorly. i don't think that franny is the kind of girl that goes out with people just to have a boyfriend. i give her more credit than that. she's with him for a *reason*... i don't think she hates him entirely, just certain traits. :helena >> yeah, and I'm beginning to sort out those traits :) Jim