that was a pretty good post, Scottie...and your question at the end kinda sums up all negative replies to digressions -- well, if you Don't like what we're talking about, INTRODUCE A DIFFERENT TOPIC :) I'm always game. Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]