Subject: Re: music as a process of religion
AntiUtopia@aol.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 2000 - 17:09:53 EST
In a message dated 1/11/00 4:01:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
PhishHed@prodigy.net writes:
<< The people who wrote the
Bible are the same people who thought the world was flat, and the Earth was
the center of the universe. That's two strikes. >>
GOOOD GOD I can't believe the TOTAL lack of education here. Now I'm starting
to lose patience. You guys have been brainwashed, befuddled, fooled.
Let me help you out a bit.
1. The Catholic Church had canonized a model of the universe developed by a
good old pagan Greek (and virtually canonized Aristotle along with him), and
THAT'S why they were such jerks about That Particular Model of the Universe.
If you want a full account, read The Discarded Image by C.S. Lewis.
2. Wrong thinking about physical facts does not a discipline discredit.
Freud REALLY screwed up on this one. In an essay describing religion as wish
fulfillment, he essentially asserted that because it's so screwed up about
the facts of the physical universe, religion must be wrong. Similar thinking
to yours. Yet, Freud's thinking is largely Out of Fashion in psychological
circles today (does that mean we should ignore his assertions about religion
then?), and later in that same essay he asserted that it may be possible to
change lead into gold.
Please.
Do you mean, then, that the Biblical teachings about compassion are wrong
because they are also supposed wrong about the structure of the universe?
3. It's a terribly shallow characterization of religion to think it exists
primarily to explain the origins of the universe. By the time religions get
to That point, they have pretty far developed. If you read the Vedas (some
of them), for example, you'll see that what they're really explaining is an
inner revelation they had about Themselves -- which happened to relate to the
rest of the universe, by the way. It's much more deeper, much more personal,
and waaay beyond simple cosmological statements.
4. You do approach some substance so far as us "not ever really being able to
know." But hundreds of millions of people worldwide -- perhaps in the
billions -- disagree with you. Real atheism, and real agnosticism, are rare
things. Even among many deeply intelligent people.
Jim
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