In a message dated 98-01-02 16:00:32 EST, you write: << Jim, I guess you are sure but in my reading, there is much more to be gained by thinking about alternatives than being certain teddy was offed by his overanxious sister...i see the story as the way the west must try and balance eastern insights...what teddy provokes in me is much more than the mystic power of one who knows his own death, but I do also see the charm in that for others...will >> Actually, if we're talking about what the story is About, I'd have to agree with you. There is a lot more to the story than Teddy being offed, or not being offed, by his sister (and if he was, I think his sister had merely intended to be a typical sister pushing a typical brother into a pool that is typically filled with water, but this time was atypically not). I guess there's a few level of meanings we're dealing with here--the basic facts (what happened), and what these facts Mean.... I gotta agree with you about what the facts mean. Teddy's whole thing about logic and reason being the fruit of the tree of knowledge (a misreading of Genesis, but that's ok--it's a misreading from a consistently held point of view--it wasn't knowledge that was forbidden, but knowledge of a particular subject--good AND evil. If they were already surrounded by perfect good, what would they need to know evil?) is a very good example of a critique of western society from an eastern perspective. Jim