Re: good will hunting etc.
Brendan McKennedy (the.tourist@mailexcite.com)
Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:10:15 -0700
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>on mon 05 jan dave koch wrote:
>
>> Another thing that annoyed the hell out of me was the dedication to
>> Ginsberg. The audacity it takes for an up and coming screen writer to
>> produces this crap and then think he's done something worthy of dedicating
>> to the memory of Ginsberg amazes me.
>
>i really think that's a bit harsh.
>
>no matter how shitty his film was, it was *his*. and he's as worthy of
>dedicating it to ginsberg as you are. what, do you *own* ginsberg or
>something? he's private property? do we have to pass an entrance test in
>order to qualify as 'worthy'?
>
>i don't want to start a flame war here, but i just *have* to say that i
>find your attitude disgusting.
>
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>:helena
>http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/4801/
I don't know, Helena. I know what you're saying but I also know what he was saying.
Not about the film (since it was a Van Sant film, I'm willing to bet the farm I'll
love it), but about the dedication. Of course the screenwriter has a right to dedicate
anything he wants to whomever he chooses, but I can sort of agree with what Dave
is saying...
When it comes to writing, I'm sort of an elitist--I admit it, although so were Salinger
(via Buddy), and Ginsberg. I get angry when untalented people (read, "Not living
up to their potential) dedicate terrible work to very talented people. I haven't
got an example, but just imagine if the Spice Girls (I hope against hope I'm not
stepping on any Bananafishers' preferences with that) dedicated their album to Salinger.
Wouldn't you be sort of annoyed? Indignant?
Dave doesn't own Ginsberg, but he may think he does. I think I own the Clash (I
nearly fell out of my seat when I heard "Rudie Can't Fail" in "Grosse Point Blank"...it
was a good movie; it was just kind of shocking to realize that someone else in the
world loves that song...) And don't we all sort of feel like we own Salinger? Don't
we feel the kind of possessive protective urge when some idiot tries to claim him
too? I saw a movie on HBO late one night called "Purple Haze," a 70's hippie movie,
and the adolescent main character's last name was Caulfield, and his little sister
was named Phoebe, and the movie recreated the entire scene in Phoebe's room--"updated"
for the 70's. I nearly puked on the television.
I don't know if anyone can relate, but I understand the want to keep a great artist
to oneself. Didn't a Bananafisher recently write that she wanted to take all the
Salinger books off of the library shelves to protect him from the world. It's the
wrong thing to do, but many bad decisions are made in the name of love.
Brendan
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on mon 05 jan dave koch <dkoch@sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Another thing that annoyed the hell out of me was the dedication to
> Ginsberg. The audacity it takes for an up and coming screen writer to
> produces this crap and then think he's done something worthy of dedicating
> to the memory of Ginsberg amazes me.
i really think that's a bit harsh.
no matter how shitty his film was, it was *his*. and he's as worthy of
dedicating it to ginsberg as you are. what, do you *own* ginsberg or
something? he's private property? do we have to pass an entrance test in
order to qualify as 'worthy'?
i don't want to start a flame war here, but i just *have* to say that i
find your attitude disgusting.
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:helena
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/4801/
quote of the week 02 jan 1998:
'if you have scars on your wrists from suicide attempts,
by all means display them proudly. the same goes for
bruises, cuts, and track marks. Abscesses, however
should always be coyly veiled in filmy black fabric.'
- 'makeup tips for the bleak'
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/makeup.html
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