<fontfamily><param>Times</param><bigger>Hello Everyone- The point I was trying to make (and I hope it hasn't gotten entirely lost by these bad feelings that arise when I don't like a movie that you do like, silly as that is) is about more than Good Will Hunting (terrible, terrible movie), it's about modern fiction generally and people's attitudes towards it. I'm a creative writing minor here at school, so I've taken my share of creative writing classes. There's a general feeling, I've found, that writing is *easy* to do. That everyone's not only got a novel in 'em, they've got a damn *good* novel, too. People have no respect for what an really huge achievement a good piece of fiction is anymore and, as this discussion of how fantastic Good Will Hunting is (it was, I'll remind everyone here, compared to Catcher for christssake) shows, they don't know good fiction when they see it and, even worse, they see bad fiction-godawful fiction, to be honest about it-as good fiction. And so the produces of such crap think that what they've done is really no different than the Ginsberg's poetry (next, I'm sure, someone will tell me how Good Will Hunting is just like Kaddish or something) and so they dedicate their horribly predictable movie to the memory of one of my favorite poets. I've only be reading this list for a short time but one of my favorite aspects of it already is how *nice* everyone is to each other, so I hope everyone isn't taking this the wrong way. But *I* just *have* to say that I'm much more disgusted with people who take fiction (and Allen Ginsberg for that matter) and good writing generally for granted, who think it's easy to produce as a slice of mediocre apple pie than people who disagree with my movie tastes. But to each his own and all that stuff, I suppose. Has anyone else seen this movie? Or maybe, on second thought, we should just let the whole matter drop. --Dave > >i really think that's a bit harsh. > >no matter how shitty his film was, it was *his*. and he's as worthy of >dedicating it to ginsberg as you are. what, do you *own* ginsberg or >something? he's private property? do we have to pass an entrance test in >order to qualify as 'worthy'? > >i don't want to start a flame war here, but i just *have* to say that i >find your attitude disgusting. >on mon 05 jan dave koch <<dkoch@sas.upenn.edu> wrote: > >> Another thing that annoyed the hell out of me was the dedication to >> Ginsberg. The audacity it takes for an up and coming screen writer to >> produces this crap and then think he's done something worthy of dedicating >> to the memory of Ginsberg amazes me. </bigger></fontfamily>