i guess so -- it was worth a shot, so to speak -- i figured seymour wasn't a clothes horse & most of the luggage was muriel's clothes & the shorts were muriel's & the undershirts seymour's & ok, seymour brought muriel the "ladies gun" but her mother insisted she pack a gat 'cause of seymour & the trees, & granny's chair, & the window, & the bermuda pictures, etc. -- you think about salinger long enough & you start to trip over details & you're not sure if it Means Something or not -- i commented a month or so back that seymour shooting himself was an echo of him throwing a rock at charlotte -- that whatever the hell he was thinking on the driveway that day with charlotte was somehow connected in his mind, by some seymour logic, to throwing a rock at himself -- so i think, is there anything else in the canon to relate to it? -- seymour shooting marbles on the streets of nyc? -- he told buddy to try not aiming so much -- seymour's aim is true -- so he meant to hit charlotte -- he meant to shoot himself "through his right temple" -- meaning through the "correct" temple? -- that is, HIS temple & not muriel's -- marriage partners are to "serve" each other -- what kind of "room service" are we witnessing in perfect day? -- seymour hits the water & says it's cold -- muriel tells her mother she's hot -- somebody got bananafever here? -- who's a bananafish & what (or whom) is a banana? -- seymour kisses sybil's foot & she disapproves with a "hey!" to which seymour responds "hey, yourself!" -- in the elevator the scene is echoed with seymour in sybil's position -- seymour's imaginary tatoo? -- calfskin luggage? -- mark of cain? -- abel kept sheep -- cain said his punishment was greater than he could bear -- is seymour being punished? -- cain dwelt in the land of nod, on the east of eden & knew his wife -- didn't seymour meet muriel on the upper east side? -- didn't the tigers in little black sambo run around until they turned into butter? -- muriel got sunburned & has a jar of bronze -- i think i've been belching up this cud so long i'm seeing patterns where they don't exist >In a message dated 98-01-07 11:20:23 EST, you write: > ><< It seems more likely that seymour would have brought the gun home from the > war than muriel would have brought a gun from her mom...so much more > likely that I wonder if sam could find anything real in the text that > actually links gun to muriel at all? will >> > >yeah, I looked for that myself. I remembered Muriel's mother was freaked >about Muriel's marriage to Seymour, even considering him a dangerous >character. So I thought she may have given it to her daughter. But I >couldn't find a hint... > >Jim