"Heard of them" was the result of my illness...(i'm better now, thanks for hypotheticaly asking) I should have said that I don't exactly turn to them for inspiration at all... I think that the argument can't really be a logical one, that plenty of people turn to plenty of different people. You can't speak on behalf of all moderrn writers- there's those who'll get inspiration from Pnchon and those who'll get inspiration from David Cassidy. Just my own two cents. I don't know why I wasn't saying this before- must be the cold medicine. -ecas