In a message dated 98-01-12 04:02:42 EST, you write: << Ecas- I actually have read and own "The Way of the Pilgrim" and I actually found it very interesting. >> i also have read 'the way of the pilgrim'...indeed, it is wonderful. and i was equally offended by scottie's oriental rubbish remark-- i myself have deep spiritual roots in the zen way of life and my only reason for not responding sooner was the fact that i didn't believe he could be serious. but since i guess he is...i mean, people still think like that? incredulously, bethany [note: the lack of capital letters on all of my posts is not a statement of any type, merely laziness on my part]