In a message dated 1/16/98 3:00:49 PM EST, kflorentzen@dialup.nacamar.de writes: << The Seymour in the elevator is a Buddy in disguise with all his hatred on the world. Kirsten >> That was really interesting too, but we do know of Seymour a bit thru Franny and Zooey. A good thing to do to support your thesis is to compare Seymour in F and Z with Seymour thru Buddy's eyes... Jim