RE: Teddy's Demise (fourth try)
Ashley Byock (ashleyb@bmginc.com)
Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:30:04 -0800
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From: Hapworth2 [SMTP:Hapworth2@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 1998 8:19 PM
To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
Subject: Re: Teddy's Demise (fourth try)
In a message dated 98-01-16 13:17:41 EST, Noah Brewer wrote:
<< So, for Teddy, this means that the story could push him in, the =
prediction
could be heavy enough. Maybe. At least I think it's worth looking at.
Salinger didn't tell us the "truth", exactly. >>
So what you're saying is that due to the tone, languge, etc., by the end =
of
the story Teddy dies because we want him to? Because we think 'that is =
what
the story must have been building up to or why would it have been built =
up?'
Noah "I'm not sure if I understand" Brewer
[Byock, Ashley] Hmmm. Um, not exactly. I'm not asserting that Teddy =
dies because we want him to. However, I am saying that Teddy is =
embedded in a story. He isn't just some independent guy running around =
with a plot on his tail. So, yes, the story is kind of running him. =
But I don't remember asserting that Teddy actually did jump, or that =
that must have happened. What I meant was that maybe the reason we =
think he did was in large part because of how the plot lead us, with =
anticipation etc..., up to that point. It's interesting that you took =
this to mean that "we" pushed him in because I think that could almost =
be argued.
I think once it becomes obvious that we don't know for sure exactly what =
happened, when we make decisions about what happened or assertions about =
it, we have to realize that it isn't self-evident so there's some other =
influences on our conclusions. What are they? Well, tragic plot =
structure lets us know ahead of time that someone's on their way over =
the cliff in the Oldsmobile or whatever. So, maybe plot structure, and =
the language Salinger uses, and the discussions that precede the event.
That's the basic thing, I think. Answer your question at all? (I hope)
oeuf
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