Jim wrote: > Yeah, see, here I'd have to vehemently distinguish between Nabokov's > voice and Humbert's. Remember that _Lolita_ is Humbert Humbert speaking, > it's Nabokov acting in a very literary way like he's someone else. The > identification of the narrative with Nabokov would then be like > identifying Leonardo DiCaprio with Romeo. Well, this is partially right ... but it would be more correctly like identifying William Shakespeare with Romeo, which is a slightly different thing. I would assume there are little parts of Shakespeare - and more importantly, little parts of his opinions and biases and outlooks on life - scattered all the way through his works. I would assume that any writer, if they are hoping to convey any sort of message or ethos, would be conveying something approximating their own. > So what does this tell us about Nabokov's intent? That he is showing us > the limitations of Humbert's perspective by having him deny something so > obvious, or that he's trying to violate our expectations at every turn? > Maybe both. At present, in this case, I'm leaning toward the former. I always had trouble considering Humbert an `unreliable narrator' - but of course he is, probably more than the trusting reader imagines (and something certainly emphasised by `Pale Fire' which is basically about the phenomena) - how do we know it was Lolita who seduced him first, etc etc - but he conveys to me an odd sort of trustworthiness for a simple reason - what has he to lose? He's in jail. He's lost Lolita. He quite possibly knows he is about to die. For that reason I find it hard rather than easy to mistrust him. We must always remember that underneath any book is the writer's intent and opinions - Nabokov's being firmly stated as anti-Freudian - rendered both thematically and, here, in the way the author wants us to read and comprehend the book. For my money, I think the placing of this specifically Freud-esque episode at the beginning of the book is there to trip the reader up - for everything that follows is designed to make us question the whole idea of Freudianism and the reasons for a perversion such as Humbert's. By the way - anyone seen the new movie of `Lolita'? I heard it got a limited release in America. Still no word on whether it will ever reach Australia. With the banning of `The Tin Drum' in some parts of America I'm suprised they even let a print into the country. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest