Re: Holden and Jane, take 2

blah b b blah (jrovira@juno.com)
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:31:48 -0500 (EST) 

Of course that's all true.  I was asking the questions out of respect for
Mattis' attempts earlier (the FUQs that didn't seem to get much
response). . .

I mean, if you're just having fun, I say go for it.  Go for it with the
questions, the fan fiction, etc.  If you have specific ideas you want to
be taken seriously, however, in my opinion you have to stay in the world
of the text.

I didn't say Mattis' perception of Holden was "wrong," and I did admit it
was a "possiblity," but it's just not within the realm of possibilities
I'd envisioned after my own reading of Catcher.  I think it's an
optimistic vision, so I'm "biologically predisposed" against accepting it
:).  Anytime you're talking about human growth, of course, almost
anything is possible. 

Jim

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:32:36 +1100 Camille Scaysbrook
<verona_beach@geocities.com> writes:
>Jim - to answer these questions wouldn't Mattis (or anyone) have to go
>outside those same bounds that Mattis has in writing his 
>`continuation'?
>Aren't you *really* just asking him to perpetuate his so called 
>`wrong'
>Holden (I actually think you got him down pretty well, Mattis and 
>still see
>no problem in the happy revelation of Holden's father. For - possibly 
>- one
>day maybe he used to want to be a catcher too?) in doing so? This is a
>perfect illustration of the way everyone has their own perception of
>characters - and also have their own ways of filling in the gaps our 
>author
>has left us. Thus - don't you think that `leaving' the world of the 
>text
>has little other value than that of passing entertainment? This is 
>exactly
>what the Fan Fiction I talked about is, admittedly - but I wouldn't 
>propose
>it as the fodder of discussion.
>
>Just a thought,
>
>Camille
>verona_beach@geocities.com
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>
>> Kudos for creativity, Mattis, but I don't think that sounded like
>> Holden's Dad to me either :)  Or Holden, for that matter :)  I 
>suppose
>> anyone can grow up, though, and it is interesting to consider what 
>he may
>> have turned out to be...and even better, how he may have gotten 
>there...
>> 
>> Some FUQs...
>> 
>> What would Holden have thought of Zen Buddhism?
>> 
>> What would Phoebe and Jane have thought of each other?
>> 
>> What did the shrinks and Holden's brother think about Holden's 
>narrative?
>> 
>> Write me a letter from Phoebe to Holden while he was in California,
>> during the time of 
>> "his" writing of Catcher...
>> 
>> Course, you have to absolutely leave the world of the text to think 
>about
>> these questions, so....
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
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