Re: Kafka and rilke and Perplexity State University

Agreed, James
In fact, Chopin, on his deathbed, had all unfinished and unpublished work
destroyed for being below par.
tina

>There's a world of difference between asking for voluntary self-censorship
>(which can always be ignored by the writer -- it's only followed at will)
>and imposing an external censorship (which is imposed by force against the
>will of the writer). Kim is doing the latter and not the former.
>
>I've heard of one poet that "He'd be a great poet if he didn't publish
>everything he'd written." A little self-censorship is a good thing, I
>think. I don't think there's any escaping the feeling of mortification
>most writers have when reading their old works, but perhaps the reasons for
>this feeling of mortification won't be quite as...mortifying...if we follow
>Kim's advice.
>
>Jim
>
>Kim Johnson wrote:
>>--- tina carson <tina_carson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Oh, Kim, I really must take issue with this one.
>>>Ever heard of Walt Witman?
>>
>>
>>was he the guy who had that hot three-way with emilie
>>dickinsen and ralph david emersen?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, Kim, I still think you're being an advocate for sensorship, and
>>>perhaps
>>>a bit snobbish.
>>
>>
>>i'm an advocate for as much sensory experience as
>>possible.
>>
>>it's safe to delete "perhaps" and "a bit".
>>
>>
>>>I don't know about other authors, but even though I
>>>would not duplicate it today, I certainly don't regret even the most
>>>naive
>>>of my works.
>>
>>
>>lucky you. (and, honestly, this is not said snidely.)
>>
>>kim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>is what i'm suggesting below censorship?
>>>>
>>>>i'm still allowing the smitten creator to
>>>
>>>buttonhole
>>>
>>>>any poor fool to hear her latest creation.
>>>>
>>>>i think the permanency of print should perhaps be
>>>>withheld until the muse's visitation is over, and
>>>>there can be a more judicious assessment of what
>>>>transpired.
>>>>
>>>>surely any number of writers would, if they only
>>>>could, wish back their headlong rush into print.
>>>>
>>>>even our dear doctor on our very own list, it seems
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>me, if i read him correctly, regrets allowing his
>>>>first two books into print. and these weren't
>>>
>>>books
>>>
>>>>of mere juvenilia.
>>>>
>>>>kim
>>>>
>>>>--- tina carson <tina_carson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Sensorship is the death of creativity, Kim
>>>>>tina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the sheer amount of contemporary poetry is
>>>>>>overwhelming. (i'm not sure if i should put
>>>
>>>poetry
>>>
>>>>>in
>>>>>
>>>>>>quote marks, or not.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>personally, i feel we (the readers) would be a
>>>>>
>>>>>whole
>>>>>
>>>>>>lot better off if there were to be a stricture
>>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>>>publishing poetry. no poems allowed in print
>>>
>>>until
>>>
>>>>>>they have survived at least a year in an
>>>
>>>airless
>>>
>>>>>desk
>>>>>
>>>>>>drawer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>but you're free to read them to any unwitting
>>>
>>>soul.
>>>
>>>>>>kim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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