> I have just sent a post about this, so I won't go into detail, but: if > you're suggesting that we know Allie is real because Phoebe indicates > that he is real, you're missing my point. This is exactly what I mean when I say we shouldn't be looking at things so literally. Taking things literally is a way to interpret life, not literature. Although you can use it for literature, I think you'll find it very limiting in the end. Authors put things in their books on purpose. Irrelevancies make for boring books. > If one wants really to > interrogate the subject of Holden's sanity, one has to question the > "veracity" of *everything* in his narrative, including the points at > which he represents conversations between himself and his sister. This is asking questions about the reliability of the narrator which I think we've discussed on bananafish before. I'm of two minds on the subject - somehow I instinctively trust what Holden says because he seems to be going out on a limb to tell me it. Other notoriously unreliable narrators - for example the narrator in Vladimir Nabokov's `Pale Fire' - seem to somehow indicate their inherent liability early on, and we quickly learn to question them. Personally I think that again, speculating on Allie as a construct rather than a character can remain only that - a speculation. Who's to say DB isn't imaginary too - we never meet him either. Or anyone in the novel, really. Everything is filtered through Holden. We might like Sally if we met her. We might think Phoebe is a brat. But because Holden tells us they're not, we believe him, which is most important to me. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442