> We are talking about literature, and Salinger's place in it. Now, we're > talking specifically about Salinger's place in the Western Canon--namely, > whether future generations will be required to read him alongside of > Hawthorne and, say, Crane in their Am Lit 2 classes. Are we ??? Then why do we even bother to discuss Salinger and Zen because that's certainly not a Western thing. I figure this argument is quite similar to the arguments I often have with people about art. To me, studying art is almost studying everything around and outside an artwork - the artist who painted it, why they painted it, where and how. People ask me `why do people pay millions of dollars for something whose raw materials probably wouldn't be worth 100 dollars?' I explain to them - when you're buying a painting, you're not really buying a painting, you're buying its place in history. And to me, this is also of intrinsic importance in the study of literature. TCIR would be a whole different ball game if it had been written by a Japanese man in 1851and that is something always in the back of our minds when we discuss it. Or if it was written by a monk in 500 AD and only three of us even knew about it. I think universality isn't necessarily a self acting substance either - a potential for universality is just as important as its achievement. But those `universal' texts have a way of getting around - there's a good chance a beggar in Iceland knows who Hamlet is, even his name - so I think comparatively few have been lost to us through lack of translation etc. Universal texts contain universes waiting for activation, and whether 5 or 5 million people activate them is irrelevant. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest