> > ... Coming back to an earlier > >argument, we collectively incarnate such characters as Holden and Hamlet > >(and coincidentally, their emotional dilemmas are not at all dissimilar) in > >our minds and hearts, causing them to `live' outside the confines of their > >narrative. We think of what Holden would do in a situation, but we rarely > >wonder what, say, Arthur Dent would. Mattis wrote: > I am not quite sure what the phenomenon Camille points out has to > do with universality It's a little like what Matt was saying about how everyone has a different experience of love, which I take from a slightly different tack to him. I think while this may be true, all these experience are linked under a thing called Love, and the fact that everyone experiences some sort of manifestation of it is what is universal about it. Together, we all create a wholly disparate but still collective experience called Love. In the same way, everyone has a different Holden, and all the different Holdens in the millions of minds across the world contribute to make one `universal' Holden (sounds like a kind of car - you have to remember Holden is one of the main car brands in Australia, like Ford or Toyota) (: Anyway, glad I could illuminate some stuff for you, because it's one of my favourite things to do! Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest