<<While I'm on the topic of universal, I just HAVE to get my two cents in. How about this for universal: a feeling that is basic and human, like Edna Ponteiller felt in "The Awakening." I really don't know how to explain this, but something....primordial, or a connection with nature. All humans are capable of feeling this, correct? I guess it depends which side of the fence you're on in the Universal discussion, but the only thing that every person has in common is existence, right? Hmm, I guess it is more clear in my head than on this email.>> Well, you see, that's just the problem. I don't relate to Edna at all. Due to gender differences? Maybe, but if we're gonna call something Universal then it has to relate to Everyone. Course, I know a lot of women who think Edna was a spoiled brat-- women who are pretty independent, business owners, and well educated. So even apart from gender differences, we have a problem identifying everyone with Edna. What you've said is that YOU can identify with Edna. No problem there. I think there's a lot of western women who can identify with Edna. Would a typical woman in Tibet even understand her struggle? If not, then maybe her experience is not so universal. Jim _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]