I'm on my way to the bookstore, Jim. Thanks. Thor >Ok, I'll get it and read it -- it's not THAT expensive anyhow :). But >what put me off was reading the chapter about areas I had studied. The >authors said emphatically that "there's no reason to believe John (the >apostle) wrote the Gospel of John." This kinda ignores a wealth of data, >and while some scholarly opinion would be in agreement, even those who >date the Gospel of John far later than John could have lived would not >say "there is no reason to believe John wrote that Gospel." > >Here, let me pull some REAL Biblical scholarship on you. > >Word Biblical Commentary says that Irenaeus cites that the fourth Gospel >was written by John the Apostle (Adv Haer, 3.1,2), and that his source >was Polycarp, who died in 155 AD and knew John personally (this is widely >accepted). Church historian Eusebius, writing in the fourth century, >cites Eusebius, Polycrates, and Clement of Alexandria as testifying that >the fourth Gospel was written by the apostle John. > >Add to this that even the authors of HB, HG say that the material from >John comes from very early sources, even eyewitness sources. Add to this >the inclusion of seeming irrelvant detail into the narrative -- like, >which column in the temple Jesus was standing by when he addressed the >Pharisees -- and it all points to a person writing from memory, and from >within the context of one specific point of view of the events. > >Word Bib Comm goes on to state the problems with Johannie authorship too >(the Greek of the book of Revelation is pretty smooth, but the Greek of >John's Gospel is of a very low level -- so it is difficult for many >scholars to believe the same person wrote both books), but it should be >obvious that a case can be made for asserting the traditional authorship >of the fourth Gospel. So when the authors of HB, HG say "there's no >reason to believe that the apostle John wrote the fourth Gospel" (esp. >when they themselves inadvertently gave me some ;) ), I tend to think >their approach to the issue is a bit shallow. > >Jim > >On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Thor Cameron ><my_colours@hotmail.com> writes: > > > >I humbly, respectfully disagree. I've not been to a bookstore to get > >the > >Lewis book yet, but I implore you, read this book. It is meticulously > > > >researched & makes a lot of sense. It is the clearest picture of the > >truth > >of what happened than I have ever seen. There are many other books > >which > >touch onit, Jesus the Magician, for example, but this puts it all in > >one > >package. How it got so convoluted in the first place is told in the > >sequal, > >The Messianic Legacy. > >Thor > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com