To reply in my oh so friendly manner I would like to respond by saying that in terms of shaping and standardizing the music into it's three chord blare the Ramones were the first punk rock band. They are the root and they had nothing to do with politics with the exception of yelling "I don't like politics" in one of their songs. Just because some crappy second rate punk band in the 80's took their anarco-pacifist ideas and melded it into the music doesn't change what it was when it began. Punk rock. I wear a white shirt, I wear a red hat, They all think I'm stupid, One day I'll kill them. I am Gilligan. (F urious George) Love mattboy.