if you dont like the topics discussed than you dont have to participate.. i'm sorry for my part in the punk escapade.. i agree the list has to get back to jd.. but quit bitchin if its such a waste of time than dont read em... anyway... in seymour did buddy write the whole thing while in that cabin of his that was mentioned in franny and zooey... i dont have a copy of SAI and i cant look it up.. byebye joey