Re: Clarifications

Robert Morris (winboog@gis.net)
Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:33:44 -0400

I don't have the energy to find exact quotes, but Joseph Campbell reacted
quite strongly to people expressing particularly strong views in favor of
Socilaism or Capitalism, and Campbell pretty much moved with the Zeitgeist
of thirties Socialism. He once also lectured his students at Sarah
Lawerence concerning the jingoism of the WWII war effort. Then in the
sixties, he completely disdained the anti-Vietnam activism taking place on
campuses. He felt that to embrace one set of these ideals to the exclusion
of the other wasto be  particularly blind. The whole Us Vs.Them thing he
spoke about consistently throughout his work.
     I think our good friend Buddy Glass told an anecdote about having a
young girl tell him in a supermarket that her boyfriends were Dorothy and
Robert. It's about unlearning the differences, buddy...
     I am a bit tired of these political flame wars going on here ( and I'm
sure I'm inviting another one just by saying so), but it seems antithetical
to the JD Salinger newsgroup to be talking in such hard terms about various
political philosophies to the exclusion of the others. I'm down with
Christ, and I don't see a lot of that Christ consciousness inherrent in
Marxism or Capitalism ( please I can't endure another explanation of why
Christ was a Communist, Andrew) So let's talk about Acting with all your
heart or Writing as Religion. If som of you wish to continue discourse
along these lines, I'm sure there are places for it. 
                   peace,
                       Robert

> From: J J R <jrovira@juno.com>
> To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> Subject: Re: Clarifications
> Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 10:38 PM
> 
> <<On this point, it is good to know that somebody out there on this list
> at 
> least thinks that capitalism 'can' be an oppressive system. Perhaps there
> 
> is even somebody who also agrees with me that it 'is' an oppressive 
> system, period.>>
> 
> Andrew, part of my point was that neither Marxist systems nor Capitalist
> has Dibs on worldwide oppression.  All systems are oppressive, but
> anarchy has to be worse than almost any system (almost).  Some systems
> are worse than others.  
> 
> Another part of my point was that it's probably not even running in first
> place as far as worldwide oppression goes.
> 
> Jim  
> 
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