Fishy Banana-types: I rarely post here, but I have been lurking for almost two years! I am very glad to hear that other Salinger fans enjoyed Bottle Rocket, too. I've seen it like 3-4 times and - not unlike reading Salinger - it just seems to get better every time. However, this makes me want to ask others the list: in terms of other (obscure) authors that remind you somehow (any way) of Salinger - has anyone else on here read any of the novels by <results.asp?userid=1MN4126KI6&mscssid=RFKAP6X72GS12JF400C0NDALFFWFDFHS&sour ceid=00000114760023687312&author_last=Lemann&author_first=Nancy&match=exact& options=and> Nancy Lemann? Her first (and I think best) is "Lives of the Saints" but I also just finished reading her newest (just out) titled "The Fiery Pantheon". They are smart and hilarious pieces of fiction and her style is very much like Salinger. I found a good review of "The Fiery Pantheon" at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/29/017l-032998-idx.html <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/29/017l-032998-idx.html > Here's a quick excerpt: 'Lemann invokes the epic alongside the Southern yarn in both her style and age-old plot. Especially Homeric is the way she endows each character with an epithet; thus, Walter is the "crazed young man," Monroe "had a lot of ailing relatives," and Grace is ever "batting her eyelashes" at inanimate objects, even as her old flames lie "in demented heaps throughout the world." Grace, whose name is epithet enough, is an idolater, and the Fiery Pantheon is her assembly of older men whom she has deemed noble. Walter is surprised to find out that, although several of the members have fallen from Grace, their memberships in the Fiery Pantheon are still honored: "This Fiery Pantheon of yours. Is there a Warm Pantheon? Maybe I'm in the Half-Baked Pantheon." As no clarifications are forthcoming, he asks, "Does it have anything to do with the Parthenon? . . . Maybe I can get into the Uncomfortably Warm Pantheon."' I'm praying that someone else on this list has read her work and can back me up here! Regardless, if you like Salinger - I highly recommend giving Lemann a try. -jld -----Original Message----- From: Robert Morris [mailto:winboog@gis.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 3:32 PM To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu Subject: Bottle Rocket -Caw Caw It is an indie film that was made in 95 by a group of friends in Texas.They had originally made a short about some wrongheaded yet lovable crooks that James Brooks saw at Sundance and loved. They then expanded it into a full length feature. The movie is the tale of three alienated young adults trying to make something of themselves through a life of crime (sort of). They aren't really hard hearted enough to be crooks, but they see this as a way of acheiving something ( and monetary gain isn't really the issue either). Maybe it's a movie about friendship and the lengths we will go to to follow our friends, and then there's the love story..... Alright Will, I give up with this synopsis stuff here's the link to the Sony website http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/bottlerocket/ This should confuse you some more I'm sure, but I'd rather have a huge multinational conglomerate confusing you than having to do it myself. Once again, good luck. Robert Morris winboog@gis.net > > can you give me a synopsis of the film? when did it come out? who made > it? I am curious and promise to try and rent it if I can, will > > On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Robert Morris wrote: > > > It's not really a link to Catcher directly, Will. There are some common > > themes like loss of innocence, and the beauty of youth etc. Bottle Rocket > > is my favorite movie and I never drew a connection between it and Catcher > > in the Rye until Matt posted his comments last night. I do highly recommend > > it though. Good luck. > > Robert